which came first

[Tiffany]

which came first, the chicken or the egg? the chicken had to lay the egg but also had to be born from an egg...i say the chicken tho :chuckle

[Laggy]

...the chicken did...

[Zelphiel]

The chicken would have evolved from something else that probably layed eggs... so the earliest version of a chicken probably came from an egg of some kind.

[Kiros]

an egg.....

[The Wang Master]

What if a genie came out of a lamp and was told to create a creature that could produce food at an astonishing rate and tasted good deep fried. In that scenario you have the chicken before the egg. Do you refute my idea of genies, did you not see Kazaam, I need no more extension of proof.

[Lancet Jades]

*moved to discussion table*

I dunno. Considerign the fact i beleive in both creation AND evolution, i'd have to say it depends on about when chickens appeared

=/

[Zelphiel]

What if a genie came out of a lamp and was told to create a creature that could produce food at an astonishing rate and tasted good deep fried. In that scenario you have the chicken before the egg. Do you refute my idea of genies, did you not see Kazaam, I need no more extension of proof.


Wasn't Kazaam one of Shaq's movies? meh... I never saw it.

[Laggy]

chicken is a crazy food...i mean..everything tastes like chicken, or chicken tastes like everything...very crazy type of food indeed..lololol

[The Wang Master]

Then what does chicken taste like? No need for rhetorical questions, chicken taste like bacon. We assume it doesn't because they are two different animals but I assure you a pig and a chicken come from the same inbred appalachian family.

[Laggy]

i agree lol...but you ask what does chicken taste like? it really has no taste at all! our minds just make us think that it does, when in all we just taste what ever it was we really wanted! lol

[The Wang Master]

Then what does chicken taste like? No need for rhetorical questions, chicken taste like bacon.
but you ask what does chicken taste like?
Either read the entire post or go sit in the corner, you are in time-out mister.

[Laggy]

lol i was just added to the fact the chicken doesnt taste like chicken it tastes like everything else lmao

[The Wang Master]

i was just added to the fact the chicken doesnt taste like chicken
Yeah in a vague, I'm drunk so everything makes sense, sort of way.

[idgaf rpgfan]

If you ask a cannibal, they will tell you that chicken tastes like human.

And I'd say the egg came first.

[The Wang Master]

You would say that, we all know you are all about the egg and it's firsty habits.

[Rick_dowg2099]

the chicken came first there is no evulotion ok lets say the ege came first umm where did it come from u think that it came from what ever it was before it was a chicken?? well when it comes down to the first one where did it come from cus hes the first one..its easy it came from god in the form of a chicken cus if there was an ege than IF and when it hatched WTF would it do ?? its a baby o what was that i think i just hured the peoples eyes open lol ...yeah u see today when a chicken hatches the mother takes care of it dosent she??yeah she dose so how could there be an ege first if so than today the mother chicken wouldent take care of the chick she would lay the eges and go on her way......and im spent lol

[Lancet Jades]

the chicken came first there is no evulotion ok lets say the ege came first umm where did it come from u think that it came from what ever it was before it was a chicken?? well when it comes down to the first one where did it come from cus hes the first one..its easy it came from god in the form of a chicken cus if there was an ege than IF and when it hatched WTF would it do ?? its a baby o what was that i think i just hured the peoples eyes open lol ...yeah u see today when a chicken hatches the mother takes care of it dosent she??yeah she dose so how could there be an ege first if so than today the mother chicken wouldent take care of the chick she would lay the eges and go on her way......and im spent lol
Ok, just one thing. Why is there no evolution? And i want an answer that doesnt involve the Bible at all, ok?

[The Wang Master]

He's neglecting the survival instinct animals have, that and he's an idiot. I find it funny that he gets "spent" just by posting.

Maybe if he used pargraphs he wouldn't seem so much the variety of idiot.

[Zelphiel]

Ok, just one thing. Why is there no evolution? And i want an answer that doesnt involve the Bible at all, ok?


I've gotta see this... it should truly be interesting to hear a non religious reason why evolution isn't possible.

[Lancet Jades]

Yeah, especially from someone as set in his religion as rick.

Oh, and rick, i'm as much as a christian as you, its just that i actually dare to question things.

[Rick_dowg2099]

let me get the dumb stuff out the way first ok 1 fairy forget u dude u mean nothing to the world and i hope i dont get banned for stoping something he started. and lancet if u are a christian than there is no questioning....
and vyers the only thing that would be interesting is if we met in real life boy ...there is no non religious reason you believe in it cus some dumb ass found some old monkey skulls and cus thay make you learn it in school but im done wasting my time cus if you havent seen it yet than when u die and its to late u will see WTF im talkin about....and im spent *meaning im done with u now*

[Zelphiel]

watch what you say rick... you're treading thin ice.

If you can't take a little abuse and a joke now and then, you're in the wrong forum.

and you didn't even come close to answering our question.

[Lancet Jades]

let me get the dumb stuff out the way first ok 1 fairy forget u dude u mean nothing to the world and i hope i dont get banned for stoping something he started. and lancet if u are a christian than there is no questioning....
and vyers the only thing that would be interesting is if we met in real life boy ...there is no non religious reason you believe in it cus some dumb ass found some old monkey skulls and cus thay make you learn it in school but im done wasting my time cus if you havent seen it yet than when u die and its to late u will see WTF im talkin about....and im spent *meaning im done with u now*
Why cant we question it? God gave us free will, so it would be hypocritical to punish us for exercising it. Besides, I question things, but I still hold true to my beliefs, so it isnt like I'm questioning whether or not God exists, or Christianity is right. More often than not, I question the people who carry it with such zeal and think that they're particular opinion on such things is the absolute truth.

The truth is, no one truly knows what God's real plans are, or what His intentions are. You could argue the Bible says such things, but you really can't prove what's in it is true, beyond the archetypal reasoning of "the Bible is God's words, thus it's true."

[Laggy]

Rick you need to get straight with what you believe in man, Im from the same house, religion, and church as you and I question things. You need to get off your holy art thou mind set and face some facts, your more of a hypocrite then the next guy, you cuss smoke weed and many other things that are “sins” but as soon as anyone other then you says something you think is a sin you go all preacher blood on them, and I know im starting a lot of shiz here in my own house but for real man… how many times I got to say, this is a forum site.. People post here to have fun, and talk about things but you get mad when someone doesn’t see things your way, everyone has a right to there opinion

[Lancet Jades]

Yeah rick, its religions zealots like you that turn people off from the religions they represent. People like you don't help people find religion, but rather abandon it.

People like you sometimes piss me off more than the athiests who claim their right and thats the be all and end all.

[The Wang Master]

Okay, incase nobody knows, the survival instinct is why we have evolution. For instance, moths. At first there where moths that flew around a light, then there were birds that found the moths and ate them. Before it was not instinctual for the birds to search for the moths around light but they learned to adapt. Now the moths eventually turned black thus harder to see at night and could elude the birds much easier. When that happened the birds developed a way to see them despite the blackened wings. This study has been going on for 10 years and that is the current point of where they are at. so bleh

evolution exists but we do not have proof that it exists in man or man's history.

As for your comment I was only joking with you, I thought you would see it that way. So defensive. *bites tongue* are you happy eternal I didn't say anything negative.

[Saberstar]

The egg came first. You said chickens, not birds.
Anyway, let's say there were no chickens at first, but there are birds. Accidentally the birds layed eggs and a chicken came out. That's a possiblity there. Same with other animals. Such as Sabertooth's tiger evolution results in cats and tiger, etc.

[The Wang Master]

yes yes yes *hugs Saberstar* most agreeable.

[Saberstar]

Of course I am dear. *hugs you too*
I use my head, even though i'm quite ignorant myself.
Things just can't pop out of nowhere. Chickens don't do that, as well as other living things.

[Chicken Little]

wait up, so first god was a being, then he was a man, then he was a chicken? Wow god sure does get around doesnt he?

the omelette came first of course, i mean seriously egg -> fire -> omelette logical yes?

[Rick_dowg2099]

vyers i was j/k i had to say something to u cus you where with the 3 that jumped me lol...bro u cant call me a hypocrite just cus i smoke weed go read genesis 1-29..you could say i was a hypocrite cus i an a christian and i smoke weed in a state where it is ilegal ...but then you must see that the bible said that we should submit to the person who has received delegated authority from god but we should disobey the order witch offends god...so if god said that he has given me every hurb and fruit bearing plant as food than ummm i can smoke-eat the hell out of weed lol ..and i dident understand what yall where sayin about quistioning god-or bible ..i thought that u where thinkin is he real cus u cant be a true christian and quistion god..thats why i got all mad..but i am tired of all of you sayin not to judge but yet you judge me and dont know me im closer to god and yes more holy than half of you and no im not sitting up on a high chair...i am right with god i dont quistion anything iv seen ...yes i do need to work on some hate that i have in my heart but atless i can see whats rong with me and try to fix it before i judge....and im spent(im done with u now lol)

[Lancet Jades]

Yeah, i didnt mean question God, at least not whether He exists or not. I DO question why He let's things happen in this world, such as thew rampant murder, rape, etc. Also, I wonder why, if any reason, He allowed me to go through such a hell in school, as well as allowing worse things in the world. So yeah, if thats what you meant, i question God.

[Zelphiel]

im closer to god and yes more holy than half of you and no im not sitting up on a high chair


someone has a very high oppinion of himself. :rolleyes

and your "just because" answers to our question still haven't staisfied me.

[Rick_dowg2099]

you already know the answer to the quistion. if he dident let you go through the stuff that you have been through than you wouldent be who you are today! everytime you make it through something you get stronger and learn something from it that will help you later on in life ,and some things you go through isent for you its for somebody else down the road ...and the reason he lets stuff happen in the world comes back to freewill if your not with god than who dose that leave u with? the devil and he dosent want peace he wants us to kill eachother ....and i think one of the reasons that god dose let stuff happen is cus of people like us we get tired of seeing it happen so we want to do something about it right? so it gose back to helping people and bringing people to christ

[Rick_dowg2099]

im not stuck up holy holy ass hole dude ...i just dont take shi* from people very well ..thats cus iv been through more and done more im my life as young as i am than anybody i know..i dont think im better than anybody iv just been around the block more than most people my age and get a lil pissed when people that dont know me act like thay do

[Lancet Jades]

Well, why would God make me suffer then? Answer that. It got so bad, i even contemplated suicide in 5th grade, and came within an inch--literally--of going through with it. If things had been so bad i had actually killed myself, would God have been merciful, or would He have condemned me to hell? I know what you'll say, so dont mind answering it. Due to the "trial" God put me through, i thought about breaking one of the ten scientists. Yeah, it made me what i am today, but it also deprived me of things other kids got. I lack the basic socilization normal teens got. I was cheated out of my childhood and adolescense. I would give up who i am now, if it meant being able to relive my life, and have things go well, even if it made me an arrogant, godless bastard.

Its people like you, who mindlessly say "Oh, God did it because he loves you and wanted you to be who you are now" that piss me off. Mind you, i dont think God put me through it, on the contrary, i'm sure it was Lucifer who set it all up. But still, God didnt even bother to do anything beyond a tiny touch here and there.

Thats one of the reasons i question God to the extent i do, and beleive me, if you've been through what i have, then you would too. Besides, everythnig you espose is merely your OPINION of everything. Even you have no real way of knowing exactly what God's will is, unless he speaks to you directly in a dream, or through some other medium.

[ChibiArisu]

Well . . . what if the egg came first, and it was two different species that mated to create it? That really doesn't answer the question though...

And also, you have no clue what other people have been through! My life hasn't been the BEST, okay?

[Lancet Jades]

Why doesnt it? Thats the evolutionb theory for it, y'know..

[Rick_dowg2099]

grrrr little girl go read it again i said that iv been through more than anybody i know...lancet if i thought it would change anything or not be pointless to tell of my life i would ... but here is a lil ..my child hood sucked to man iv been workin sence i was 13 iv had 11 jobs and only got fired from 2 ..iv had 5 girl friends and only been broke up with 1 time thats not counting how many girls iv BEEN with lol yeah umm and..iv been through 2 floods in witch we lost everything ..when i was younger i was molested by 2 gay baby sitters ... and now i cant drive cus bad cops that dident like my family gave me a DWI on privet property ..and yes like you i have almost killed myself ..but through it all i had faith i have seen and hured what i need to ,to know thay god is real and good

[Lancet Jades]

grrrr little girl go read it again i said that iv been through more than anybody i know...lancet if i thought it would change anything or not be pointless to tell of my life i would ... but here is a lil ..my child hood sucked to man iv been workin sence i was 13 iv had 11 jobs and only got fired from 2 ..iv had 5 girl friends and only been broke up with 1 time thats not counting how many girls iv BEEN with lol yeah umm and..iv been through 2 floods in witch we lost everything ..when i was younger i was molested by 2 gay baby sitters ... and now i cant drive cus bad cops that dident like my family gave me a DWI on privet property ..and yes like you i have almost killed myself ..but through it all i had faith i have seen and hured what i need to ,to know thay god is real and goodBut that still doesnt answer the question, WHY does God let people go through that, huh?

And you life may have been bad, but i doubt it was much worse than mine. If my life had been any worse, i wouldnt be here now, making this post. Hell, i wouldnt Be here at all.

EDIT: And please don't talk down to people like that, ok,? Don't call her "little girl" call her trance, as per her sn.

[Rick_dowg2099]

i have only one quistion big man ..why is it that every fuc*ing post iv made some dumb fuc* has something wack and meanhaha to say to me but you never in all of them say something to them huh?wtf man do the things i say cus its truth and cus it makes you see that in some of your thinkin is rather wack dose that make you that mad as to correct me every time i say something ?????????? sence iv been here im the only one that iv seen you correct and dont give me the bull of im the only one doing anything rong cus you can look just in this post to see other people dissin me man and the only reason i called her little girl is cus after most of my posts she butts in without reading it through and says something wack...yeah after you read all this shi* your goin to be mad and come up with some wack reason to kick me off and defend your self with some crazy off the wall come back but its all good do what you must.....peace out

[Lancet Jades]

I'm not gonna ban you. You havent commited any offenses punishable by banning. And pissing off the admin, or at least THINKING you did doesnt count, lol.

As for your post proper, how do you know its the truth? How do you know what you think is the absolute, ultimate, universal, eternal truth? Just because you, or some other christian thinks something, doesnt make it God's word. The only real fact is, only God knows what His will is. I doubt any human, much less any human today, knows what it is, unless He actually speaks via a dream, or bush, or whatever.

Oh, and i'm not "correcting" you. Unlike you, i'm not trying to preach my POV to everyone. Besides, you still havent answered my questions. If you want any argument you give to have salience, you'd probly do well to answer em...

EDIT: And, i havent said anything to them because they havent broken the rules. But, i havent given you any warnings either.So why complain?

[Rick_dowg2099]

well damn that went alot better than i though it would lmao...dude i really dont know the one and only reason why god lets stuff happen ..but god says trust in him and have faith and he will bring you through all trials..the bible says that to be a christian u wont stop you from going through trials if anything you will go through more cus you are forever learning and comeing closer to god and the devil wants you to fail and man is born with a wicked heart and to sin ...its not a thing of what he lets happen dude its a thing of free will if you dont fallow god and ask jesus into your heart than you will be tempted by the devil and fail and thats why there is so much evil in the world cus people have forgotten about god and hardend there hearts..he dosent let it happen we just do it ,we eather fallow him and do the works of god and have ever lasting life or we fallow the devil and live out our lives as we see fit and go to hell..the quistion shouldent be why dose god let it happen ,it should be why do we let it happen???

[Lancet Jades]

Well, i had no choice BUT to let it happen. It was either i go through that hell, or i find a way out of it, ALL of which would be sins, mind you. I could have killed myself, which is a sin. I could've gone on a killing spree...sin. And those are just a couple of things. I COULDN'T 'not let it happen'. I was forced into it. So don't go saying i "had the power to change it" because anything and everything i COULD have done to escape and end it would've sent me to hell.

After all that, i feel entitled to an explanation from God why i had to go through with that. You know that question" IF you could ask God one thing, what would it be?" Thats what i'd ask him.

[Rick_dowg2099]

who knows maybe you went through it so that when you get older you will change the way things are done in school or just in the way you bring up your kids so that thay can do something ..but yeah like you said thats just a quistion you will have to ask god and trust i have alot of quistions to ask to lol

[Lancet Jades]

All that those expeiences left me with is an intense hatred for the school system, and the desire to destroy it, as well as kill, or at leats torture, many of the people who inflicted the pain and grief upon me. How exactly is that a lesson God tried to teach me?

[Rick_dowg2099]

dude i want to kill all cops and judges hang them from trees naked and beat them with sticks till thay fall apart for real yo...but its a test i guess to see how godely we are and a test of our faith there is to much i dunno about the bible thats why im goin to bible school lol

[Saberstar]

dude i want to kill all cops and judges hang them from trees naked and beat them with sticks till thay fall apart for real yo...but its a test i guess to see how godely we are and a test of our faith there is to much i dunno about the bible thats why im goin to bible school lol

Well if you really truely believe in god then you should know better not to kill or have thoughts of it. A real believer, or should I say, someone who is obsess with the whole bible and god thing shouldn't think of any blood shed whatsoever.
Anyway, having tons of job while you were young doesn't mean crap. There are tons of people out there who has been through more then you have. Don't make it sound like you've suffered a lot.

Everyone is bond to go through something now and then. It's just a matter of when and what. And personally, it's not necessary a bad thing. If you've been through some hardship while you were little, when you get older you'll know how to face it. And make things seem less helpless, since you have experienced it. For me, I give people advice, as an older friend. Because I myself, believe it is something right for me to do. Knowing that the person I am helping, the problems they have is their first. Anyway, it's very lame of people to whine and let others pity that person over the damn forum. Reason why you have friends and parents for.

Aside of that, let me say this. I am not religious at all. But I know the difference between right and wrong. I live my life freely because of this. Following my own rule, not some book. I feel like most people should do the same. Of course when i meant follow my own rule, this doesn't include stuffs that result in others. I meant to view something through my own opinion and knowledge. Ah well, I have more crap to say if you think my opinion is wrong.

[The Wang Master]

so um, I was at class for the past some odd hours. Did I miss much or is he just saying the same thing over and over and taking everything personal all the while retaining his dildo like status? Not a flame just a question. Cause I don't want to waste my time reading.

Please don't elaborate, just say yes if he's redundant or no, I should read what has been posted. If no, then I will read and then post a response with much more thought than this one.

[Saberstar]

his posts are funny but hard to read and understand. You might as well read them. They are a bit different but still basing his view over the book.

[The Wang Master]

Well I read most of it till it started to trail off into wussiness. Anyways, God says alot of things. If he was so great we wouldn't have to interpret what he says. Correction, if the book was so great. blah blah blah

Don't go talking down to Trance, I like her, and I don't like many. (even if he apologized I thought that should be pointed out)

So this egg, is it a chicken egg or a God egg?

[Zelphiel]

well... I guess it's a God egg now.

[The Wang Master]

well wouldn't you need two chickens to make the egg, or two bird like things. Where did they get the habit of sex? If you ask me, if I wasn't told that I need my wang to be in her pussy to procreate I might go for the oral.

[Saberstar]

I thought oral sex results into a non-hatching egg pregnancy...>_>
Why must you include the god egg? -_-

[Chicken Little]

because the threads gone down that track where jokes are interpretated into the actual first question.

I still say the omelette just because i want to be difficult.

[Ricdeau]

No no no no no no....The chicken came first, because it got raped by the Eggman from Sonic, and thats where the egg actually came from. You know I'm right... Meow.