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Zelphiel
04-13-2004, 01:11 AM
In this argument Magic is "commanding something to happen" and Prayer is "begging for it"... which is essentially what they are anyway.

I like the idea of Magic, but I don't practice either one.

Saberstar
04-13-2004, 01:14 AM
I'm a magic freak. >_< So so...well uh i don't practice it, knowing it's a waste of my time. I mean i'm certain that It can't happen if I were the one doing it. But I love watching movies that involves magic. >> like Harry Potter. LOL

Leknaat
04-13-2004, 01:20 AM
When I was like 15 or 16 I was really into the whole magic thing. That sort of panned out as I got older. The books are interesting to read though. I don't think I ever really prayed...so neither.

Laggy
04-13-2004, 01:45 AM
i have practiced magic and saw nothing happen...but i have seen some things happen with it...
same with prayer.

overall i picked prayer over magic along time ago

Saberstar
04-13-2004, 01:47 AM
Meh, I wouldn't rely on praying. You can't rely, praying, on something you don't know if it exist or not. All you can do is rely on yourself or those who supports you.

Lancet Jades
04-13-2004, 02:09 PM
Well, i pray a lot (well, not a lot, but still). And, i have to say, preayer has helped me with a lot of things. Even though its begging for help from a deity that might not exist, too many things have happened because of it for me to rule it out as mere coincidence...

Aoi Asahina
04-13-2004, 05:05 PM
I rather go with magic, it appeals more to me. But I do pray.

Lancet Jades
04-13-2004, 05:34 PM
Well, magic appeals more to me too, as it would to most. As lathan said, magic is "commanding" and praying is essentially "Begging"

Almost anyone would rather command than beg.

Rick_dowg2099
04-13-2004, 06:01 PM
lol lol lol this is funny... first off magic is evil if you know anything about it and have tryed it than u know that its evil duh ppl when u practes magic u are opening doors for demons to come into your life and inless ur dumb and want to see some sh** like that then i wouldent recamend it lol .....and 2 praying is not beging there is only one god he made the heaven and the earth and all in them ..and if u dont have god/jesus in your life and have a relashionship with god than when u pray i could see that u would think it was beging cus nothing happens....prayer is not just for askin for something that u want even tho god said whatever u desire will be given unto u ..prayer if so we can get closer to god!! its for healing!! and casting out demons!!! magic is of the world it dose nothing good for u or the world ...but it is pointless to talk about stuff u dont know about like magic and praying duh..im done if u ppl want me to ill look up some stuff in the holy book and post it or give u a site to go to about alot of quistions about the bible just ask..peace out

Saberstar
04-13-2004, 06:06 PM
Shut up Ricky Martin. LOL
In the games Praying is also considered Magic. But it's considered good magic, holy magic. And Summoning is usually considered dark magic.

Zelphiel
04-13-2004, 06:28 PM
Rick... did you ever think that maybe some of the members don't believe the same way you do. Just because a monumentally flawed book says something doesn't mean that it's right.

Laggy
04-13-2004, 06:32 PM
yeah rick. not only that though, all you had to say is that you would pick payer, you didnt have to go on and on about all that dude....

Saberstar
04-13-2004, 06:37 PM
yeah rick. not only that though, all you had to say is that you would pick payer, you didnt have to go on and on about all that dude....

Doesn't he remind you of um Fairy? :D

Lancet Jades
04-13-2004, 06:41 PM
meh, keep it down youze...

Don't start fighting, or i'll have to put this on ZT...

nightsavior
04-18-2004, 11:22 PM
well steretypically prayer is good and magic is evil...well i've known prayer to be bad..one time i was eating with a baptist family...sam, a guy i knew prayed for the "destruction" of another town just because it had more liberal views of sex and religion. i'm sorry but praying for the destruction of anything or anyone is "bad." as for magic i know from personal experience that it is a neutral force it can be used for good or evil, it just depends on the heart of the person wielding it.

Laggy
04-18-2004, 11:42 PM
just because someone prayed for destruction doesnt mean player is bad...if it happend maybe...but im sure it didnt..they prayer might have been bad. thre play'er might be bad...but player itself isnt bad..
some with magic, some can say it is bad...but lots of people think that there are good and bad types of magic, its all up[ to what you think i guess...but IMO if i play for somthing "bad" that doesnt make payer itself bad

Lancet Jades
04-18-2004, 11:57 PM
Yeah, i agree. Plus, if the prayer was bad, do you really think God would answer it? Thats one gopod thing about "Begging" rather than "commanding" If the prayer wishes for bad things, the deity has no reason to do it.

Quel Thalas
04-19-2004, 12:04 AM
Although i dont practice either one, magic would better suit my lifestyle...

nightsavior
04-19-2004, 01:13 AM
to clear things up..i don't think all prayers are bad..just a prayer that is selfish or destructive. fortunatelly most ppl tend to pray for healing,guidance,and hope..

Lancet Jades
04-19-2004, 01:14 AM
Well, do you really think a selfish or destructive prayer would be answered though?

Laggy
04-19-2004, 01:16 AM
i dont think so, which is to say that the play'er might be bad but the one your praying to isnt..those prayer isnt bad..people might be but "player" is a thing..and its not a bad thing

nightsavior
04-19-2004, 01:57 AM
well lancet..i know the power of belief is strong i have seen instances where when enough ppl pray for something or they wish for it...it happens. still i think you are right that if just an individual prays for something negative nothing will happen. there tends to be more power in a goal when ppl pray in concert..a.k.a large groups. still it kinda scared me seeing a self proclaimed christain praying for the destruction of a town..if you're going to pray do so for a loved one or something beneficial..

Chicken Little
04-19-2004, 06:21 AM
me go neither..both take time...and effort...effort = bad unless money or sex involved.

Laggy
04-19-2004, 06:24 AM
lol you could pray for money and use magic for sex...>_< lmao j/p..or am i?

ChibiArisu
04-19-2004, 07:37 AM
Hahaha, well personally, I think magic is well suited for me. With that said, I think prayer is something you do to try and be more confident. It makes you believe that it'll happen, and sometimes it will. Doesn't mean that prayers ALWAYS come true, it's just your confidence that leads you to your destination.

Lancet Jades
04-19-2004, 11:09 AM
Hahaha, well personally, I think magic is well suited for me. With that said, I think prayer is something you do to try and be more confident. It makes you believe that it'll happen, and sometimes it will. Doesn't mean that prayers ALWAYS come true, it's just your confidence that leads you to your destination.
O.O;;;; Wow, kellypoo actually posted!!!!!!!

I agree with you about prayer, but even if it makes you more confident, that doesnt mean that its your confidence alone that helped you persevere. Divine help could've also played a part

ChibiArisu
04-19-2004, 03:27 PM
Yes...I posted... ^_^, and well, what you said is true. There could be a greater force that helps you, and it's your prayer that signals them to do so.

Lycanthroat
04-04-2005, 08:04 PM
Magic as you are actually forcing something to happen. That sorta area is also quite interesting. Wheras, in my book, prayer is pointless as I don't believe in any sort of god =/

Kal
04-04-2005, 09:17 PM
I like Prayer the best :)

Seraph Zero
07-16-2005, 01:41 AM
I say fuck em' both, just operate on intuition and skill. Prayer, magick... it's all somewhat nonsense. Prayer moreso than magick, though. Prayer involves the belief in a big, invisible man in the sky. Magick involves the belief in nature and natural energies, something more tangible than any god...

Really, if I had to pick, I'd say magick.

Altima
07-16-2005, 05:43 AM
I really don't think I use either. I have only used it when I command and begged to win the lottery...which I wasn't too serious about, even tho i'd love to win millions of dollars. Magic is better tho because I don't wanna sound like a begger.

Kal
07-16-2005, 09:15 AM
I'm totally wiht prayer on this one....