5 things you hate about RPGs

[Laggy]

name 5 things that you dont like about RPGs, and i mean things you would take out of the overall any RPGs

something that is in most all RPGs that you dont like...

[Lancet Jades]

1: Not long enough, lol. Make em twice as long (story wise)!

thats all i can think of for now...

[Zelphiel]

1. too much love interest
2. substance

that's all I can think of right now.

[Lancet Jades]

Meh, i like love intrest stuff...i'm a hopeless romantic :D

And i agree, more substance and depth is needed...

[Chicken Little]

1. Id take out every character and remake them with some damn depth.
2. Id make the storyline seem interesting rather then reused and stale
3. Id give the player the versatility to make their main character even if its just prodominate stats. Every character is a medium person, with average base stats, which is overall average.
4. Any end boss which ends up to be a piece of piss will be burnt, pissed on, buried, dug up and finally shoved up another skeletons rectum.

thats 4 off the top of my head.

[Nereid]

1. Get 'em to Disc 22 because of storyline.
2. Final boss = PWNAGE. I'd make it so you almost HAVE to buy a GameShark to win.
3. Side quests will no longer be so frigging pointless.
4. Distribute stats AS YOU PLEASE when you gain levels (dammit Rydia, get some frigging HP!).
5. Most importantly, THE ABILITY TO SKIP ANY TUTORIAL WITH THE PUSH OF A BUTTON!

[Zelphiel]

5. Most importantly, THE ABILITY TO SKIP ANY TUTORIAL WITH THE PUSH OF A BUTTON!

yeah. not just rpgs though. every game should have that.

[Nereid]

At least you get to skip the storyline in Disgaea when you're on the 400th try at the same level...

[Zelphiel]

I'm glad you can do that. but, I think everything in a game should give the option to skip it. even cutscenes... especially when you've seen them many times.

[Lancet Jades]

I second that. Cutscenes can ge annoying, even the cool ones...

[Wallie Wildo]

1.Make them longer
2.Make the story different depending on what you do
3.Make the last boss impossible unless you are at the max level
4.Get rid of the whole save the world get the girl crap
5.Make the game have a regular battle system like the old rpgs or like an mmorpg not both combined

[Zelphiel]

1.Make them longer
2.Make the story different depending on what you do
3.Make the last boss impossible unless you are at the max level
4.Get rid of the whole save the world get the girl crap
5.Make the game have a regular battle system like the old rpgs or like an mmorpg not both combined


there are a few last bosses that are exceptionally hard... you should play Star Ocean 2, Fire Emblem, and some of the optional bosses in Disgaea are difficult.

[Lancet Jades]

Well, Indaelecio really isnt all that hard. Hell, you can take him down at Lv80.

But if you do that event to make him into Ultimate Indaelecio.... *shudders*

You'd better be LV200+

[Wallie Wildo]

Most optinal bosses are hard like in ff7 ruby was pretty hard

[Zelphiel]

Well, Indaelecio really isnt all that hard. Hell, you can take him down at Lv80.

But if you do that event to make him into Ultimate Indaelecio.... *shudders*

You'd better be LV200+

that's what I was talking about... even though I've never fought him myself... you've talked enough about him.

[Lancet Jades]

He's a bitch then, lol. Lesee...
He has Star flare, Southern Cross, Explode, Earthquake.

You can absorb Star flare and explode if you have Angel Armbands, but S.Cross still does like 4000. And Earthquake...*shudders*

Earthquake = 9999 vs. EVERYONE. IF you dont have Revival Cards, you're dead...

Thats not mentioning Divine Wave and its petrifying powers, Divine Comedy, which also does 9999 (and petrifies), and his uber-high movement speed.

And he has 1,500,000 HP...

[Chicken Little]

yeah its nice having lvl255 characters and 999 proficiency on all their killer moves...too bad hes still a speedy mofo and he evades it still..but HA i got the last laugh..yeah you cheesy mofo, fly > joo!

But yeah ruby was a piece of piss if you go in with a strategy instead of
Party + smackage = win cuz party + smackage = you pwned.

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

1.if its short
2.if you have to sit thru the tutorails.
3.random battles every 3 seconds
4.a lot of team members
5.when 1 charactor gets the most attention(like if the whole story is about them.

[nightsavior]

american rpgs

1. have a better intro than constantly saving caravans from marauding goblins.

2. have unique races in character creation besides generic elves and dwarves.

3. having a setting not set in a fantasy world during the middle ages . what about victorian times or the wild west? fall out however was a great rpg that defied the norm by being in a post apocolyptic world.

4. new enemies! i get so tired of fighting ogres,gnolls,giant spiders,rats,and bug bears.

5. classes with some flare. i'm getting tired of barbarains,necromancers,and paladins.


japanese rpgs

1. less flash...more substance. great graphics don't always make for a great game.

2. the save the world storyline is starting to ware thin.

3. heroes with more depth than a buncha teenagers with angst ridden pasts with terribly stereotypical personalities.

4. romance is ok...but why does the hero always go for the "preppy good girl" arch type? if i was tidus i would have gone fore lu lu and if i was squall i woulda ended up with quistis. perhaps allowing you the option of choosing your love interest would be a better approach.


5. a japanese rpg more darker,sexual,and grittier geared more for adults then teens and children. by this i don't mean a hentai game(which japan already has plenty) i simply mean a game with deeper characters, adult situations, and a storyline that really makes you ponder some important issues.

[Chicken Little]

Shadow hearts, no lovey dovey though but very dark and gothicy.

Star Ocean has the ending in whihc you can pick the female that you want to be matched up with

I personally wouldnt mind having a romantic rpg just pure romance and stuff because its all just been an eventual thing in rpgs as such:

Main hero declares hes buff and goes out to save the world
Main hero meets either old friend or new friend and is swept off their feet by them
Main hero continues to be as buff as somethign happens to the love interest that threatens his/her sanity
Main hero then divulges a way with his uber brain power of a 1200 bc donkey caring 5 tonnes of explosive materials constantly pressing the button to explode it, to save the damsel, the world and end up in love.

Guaranteed every story will follow this line up yet instead i want to see a romance which doesnt go as smoothly or doesnt follow the trend, why no thave lesbians, bisexuals and gays in it, of course socially unacceptbale so then why not elaborate on what is acceptable.

[nightsavior]

well tooth, i'm sure rpgs have hinted at bisexuality and homosexuality. some anime characters that are men for example look and act very feminine. (i know there is a term for such characters but i'm an anime "fan" not an anime "zealot" so i forget what it is.) i swear kuja looked like a hot chick to me in ff9. in ff7 we got to see cloud cross dress in ff7 and if you probe deeper you could say his admiration for sephiroth when he was younger bordered on sexual attraction. in fear effect the two girls were lovers..though fear effect was an action title not an rpg..censorship is slowly losing it's death grip..

[Chicken Little]

yes but there are only hugs and kisses for a short duration, theres nothng else. For games that are supposed to immerse the people into the world you kinda expect more to happen then just rpg characters hugging and kissing.

[nightsavior]

i agree...i mean we have games that blatantly "suggest" sex...but i've never seen two ppl make love in an rpg. and usaully if there is a homosexual character in an rpg they are evil...they are never the main hero or heroine. race is another thing they should adress in an rpg. in all my years playing rpgs i've never seen a leading black,native american, or hispanic character. usaully the main hero is white or on rarer occasions he or she is asian.

[Wallie Wildo]

yeah thats so damn true makes you think that the game develpers are racist and homophobic i wouldnt really wan to see two guys having sex in a game or two women or a man and a woman i mean cmon guys why not just get some porn i think that if they put sex in the games they would become solely based on it and that would suck but the only black person i can think of in an rpg is barret in ff7

[nightsavior]

well theres a difference between graphic penetration porn and tasteful erotica. i mean you can show two ppl making love without showing genitila,pubic hair,or even full breast shots. still yeah seeing two guys go at it would be a lil much for me i admit...as for barret yes he is a character but he's a supporting character...

[Wallie Wildo]

yeah i know i wish they would make more rpgs about the future like 1000 years from now there is a huge (world not earth) being attakcked by a virus that came from an atsroid and 80% of the population of the planet was wiped out by the virus and there are 5 (yeah thats right i said 5 in the party) and on your journey to find the cure like 2 or 3 people in the party die and the others are immune to it and continue to search untill they come upon the meteor and have to fight the virus itself and die (yeah thats right i said die) no matter what you lose and the entire population is wiped out i think that is a good idea where the heroes actully lose

[nightsavior]

i agree the heroes shouldn't always win...and if they do win it should come at a great price. i think a few rpgs are starting to be a little more realistic but back in the day everything was always happy and hunky dorey in the end. i liked ff7 because the main love interest actually died and even though u saved the world it was still a harsh place..ff7 really made me sad and angry..but if i game can stir you like that it's a good thing.

[Wallie Wildo]

i dont like ff7 anymore also they should make an rpg where you are the bad guy or girl

[nightsavior]

hmmm you're right. damn caw you think they would have done that by now....i mean you DO get to be the villian in legacy of kain blood omen...but that's not really an rpg...also remember the mega man legends game where u got to be his cute female nemesis ? what was it? misadventures of tron something..an rpg where you're dracula or lucifer would be cool..

[Chicken Little]

if you think its disgusting then you should grow up a bit. Granted the stereotype gamer is a child more gamers now are adults.

So tell me this then whats the difference between a movie and a video game?

Movies portray sex scenes and gay and lesbian activities yet it is abhorred when a game is considered to thave them and why? What is the point in having a sotry that bonds characters together to the point where two people would usual have sex and just cut it off. Not only does it make it less realistic, it makes it less enjoyable and repetitive. By all means im not saying make an entire game based around a person having sex but it would be nice to have a game which just doesnt care and allows the characters toi mold themnselves, make mistakes and be human.

[nightsavior]

i agree tooth...i don't see sex as wrong and i think one could make a very deep game with erotica in it. frankly i think it's just never been tried. i mean if there is sex in a game that is all the game is about...yet they have never had a game with sex in it AND a deeper storyline with actual good play mechanics and graphics. face it tooth we live in a neo victorian freudian society where sex is considered to be dirty instead of spiritual and healing. i mean even in porn they use words like "raunchy,nasty,dirty,bizare,per verted,and slutty" it's weird because we aknowledge sex yet we also think it's something that should be hidden because it is naughty.

[Lancet Jades]

Yeah, i wouldnt mind if games had more "Adult" themes, but if they entire game was centered around them, or if tehy threw em in there "just because" then they're meh =/

[Wallie Wildo]

i dont think its discusting i just dont really think that sex should be a part of video games because just like how almost all rpgs are based in midevil times they would very quickly become based on sex thats pretty obvious that would happen or is it just me i think that it could ruin games

[nightsavior]

it's all how it's done caw. i mean in fallout 2 you can be a porn star,buy prostitutes,be gay,be lesbian,be bi,and generally be the epidemy of the word slut. despite this however sex was not what the game focused on nor was it something i constantly pursued while playing it..

[Wallie Wildo]

never heard of that game sounds kinda funny though i wanna be a slut lol

[nightsavior]

it's a post apocolyptic rpg in an alternate reality. pretty much you actions lead to one of many endings some good others bad. theres no right way of completing it really. the graphics in it aren't that revolutionary but it has an easy to use combat system and plenty of side quests,strange races,uber technology,bad ass weapons,and memorable characters. another cool thing is you can be as evil or good as you want to be without penalty. if i was asked to make a comparison of it's core essence i'd say it's like baldurs gate with power armor and guns mixed with road warrior,trigun,and thunder dome...give it a shot! it's pretty cheap with a retail of 9 bucks for both fall out 1 and 2..

[Wallie Wildo]

what systems it for i hope the playstation

[nightsavior]

it's for the pc i'm afraid though for the ps2 they have fallout:brother hood of steel. pretty much it has some of the main fall out series's adult humor and situations as well as it's gruesome combat...however it is not nearly as versatile or fun to play as the originals. remember what ps2 did to baldurs gate da? they took out the deep rpg aspects of the pc versions and pretty much made it more of a hack n slash action hybrid with slight rpg elements. the same thing was done in fallout:brother hood of steel.

[Laggy]

I also hate it whne I am trying to go farther in a game and I get attacked every 2 steps >.<

[Leknaat]

I hate it when you're in the middle of trying to figure out a puzzle in an RPG and you keep getting random encounters. It throws me off sometimes lol

[Silly Girl]

1) Give the characters some realism and relatablility, dammit.
2) The stories can't be in-depth or interesting... they must be BOTH.
3) Make the gameplay fun, don't stick it in there just so you can call it a game.
4) Let me skip scenes. Sometimes I do play the game without wanting to watch the cutscenes and pay attention to dialogue.
5) Side quests should build character and story, not just be there for the hell of it.

[Laggy]

5) Side quests should build character and story, not just be there for the hell of it.
they arent really there for the hell of it, most of the time you get itmes, and they are fun, too (most of the time.)

[Ace of Jades]

5 things i hate well they are never long enough, and that they never do have a very good storyline.

[Kaffee]

I hate the bullshit you have to do sometimes to get the ultimate weapons, like in FF 10.

[Lycanthroat]

Repetitive dungeons, with very similar music and layout. And naff music. Ya gotta have good music.

[Chicken Little]

I hate the bullshit you have to do sometimes to get the ultimate weapons, like in FF 10.

that chocobo race...fucking RIGGED!

*fumes*

[Lycanthroat]

I never even bothered doing the Chocobo race in FF10 - I did it about 10 times, knew I was never gonna do it and CHEATED to get the Sun Sigil. Bwahahaha.