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Kaffee
01-24-2005, 06:11 PM
I for one believe in God, its my choice to make. But there are some out there that think they have the right to tell me what's christian and what's not. I believe in God my own way and do not fall for all the anti-gay stuff. I always thought that being a christain was about being open and unjudging. But its seems like every bible thumping idiot gets up nowadays and screams about every little thing. Its getting ridiculous. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.

Day
01-24-2005, 06:17 PM
I think your right, and to answer the overall question, yes.

Laggy
01-24-2005, 06:18 PM
I agree, I have always been in church and at one point was going to be a preacher (still might) but they go to far on a lot of shit

Kaffee
01-24-2005, 06:20 PM
laggy, i once had a chance to go to Bible School, my uncle who was a preacher was going to pay for it. so i very close to being a preacher myself, lol

Laggy
01-24-2005, 06:23 PM
I have gone to 2 Bible based schools and going to go to another soon lol

Wallie Wildo
01-24-2005, 06:32 PM
yes it goes way to far im not even gonna explain how cause everyone knows :P

The Deity
01-24-2005, 06:35 PM
I always thought that being a christain was about being open and unjudging. But its seems like every bible thumping idiot gets up nowadays and screams about every little thing. Its getting ridiculous. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.

:hmm Gee I wonder brought this thread on.

I'm not going to nor do I have the right to impose my religion on you, but I do have every right to say what I believe and what I believe a Christian is. In my mind the Bible does a very clear job of drawing it out for you.

Lancet Jades
01-24-2005, 06:37 PM
I don't think religion itself goes too far per say (in some cases yes, for example Islam and their stupid Jihad, calling for death to other religions), but for the most part, religion doesn't go too far. Its the PEOPLE that (supposedly) represent the religion that do.

I worship God in my own way, and I have my own beliefs. I'm sort of a cross between a Christian and a Deist. I'm willing to tell people my beliefs, but I don't try and force them on people (I will defend them if anyone tries to undermine them though). However, there are plenty of people from all religions that DO try and force their religion onto other people. The Spanish Inquisition, Islamic Jihad, and any country with an official state religion, or even the preacher or devout individual who believes it their duty to try and convert anyone they meet to their religion, and make it known that anyone who doesn't convert is going straight to hell. They're the people that give religion a bad name.

Chicken Little
01-24-2005, 08:16 PM
:hmm Gee I wonder brought this thread on.

I'm not going to nor do I have the right to impose my religion on you, but I do have every right to say what I believe and what I believe a Christian is. In my mind the Bible does a very clear job of drawing it out for you.


yeah same, but with me, my book 'The great googly moogly in woogly' which retails for $3.95 says i have the right to stab you in the face 37.5 times for directing people to the bible. But hey its my religious text so deal with it.

Remember people $3.95 at all good book stores!

And Yes religion does go to far because it is represented, devised and exploited by people, who overall are insignificant, dismissive, dimwitted and overall a bane on anything and anything. Damn locusts >_< So until the time when say animals get religion, it will always be totally fucked.

Remember people $3.95 at all good book stores! BUY MY BOOK!!

Anyway basically all religion bar asain religions has been the sole reasn for one group of people to kill another, to rule over another, to invade another group. And its still apparant today because they get off on acting superior, when theyre not. Its amazing how many hypocrytes you'll find when you delve into the fanaical religions such as christianity :P and yes it is classified as fanatical with your goddamn army of missionaries enforcing it on citizens in 3rd world countrys. And in asia during the communist uprisings, and even in medievil Europe with the divine right of kings. How far back do we need to go to prove that your full of bs and that religion has gone way to far in matters which didnt involve it, but wee the first to run and hide when something happened? *points to the pope during the black plague, ran and hid between fire so as to not get infected = selfish prick*

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oh and btw none of this is based on actual researched facts and i would appreciate all those who would pick this apart to voice an argument not to cuz i could personally care less but youd be kinda proving my point that your hypocrytes in trying to tell me im wrong and your right thus being superior when your not. Oh and i would have to insult you, your mum, your dog and your relatives so :P

Dark Luther
01-24-2005, 10:03 PM
The Islamic Jihad is not an attempt to kill others of other religions, it is actually a resistance movement with several goals that for the most part focus on forcing the west out of the affairs of the Middle East and supporting issues that don't concern them.

For the question about religion, I believe it is very much so that organized religion goes too far in pushing it's own ideals. I also agree that much can be learned from the Bible ( though you must know how to question it as well, or not taking everything at face value ). The fact is that several things are not really addressed but are still major issues with the church - such as Abortion, Divorce, Homosexuality, Masturbation, Contraceptives, and several others. Many of these issues are not truly addressed in the Bible - or are vague and may be interprited differantly by ourselves.

Leknaat
01-24-2005, 10:38 PM
I do think religion goes too far. I believe in a higher existence but as far as organized religion goes..I'm much happier without it.

Sassafrass Raistimass
01-24-2005, 10:48 PM
I hesitate to say religion itself goes too far, but certain religious nuts [rd: Falwell] certainly do. That's why I love my church so much: it's less about religious rules and mandates and more about tolerance and the search for truth. Can't get much better than tolerance and truth, can we?

Chicken Little
01-25-2005, 12:16 AM
I hesitate to say religion itself goes too far, but certain religious nuts [rd: Falwell] certainly do. That's why I love my church so much: it's less about religious rules and mandates and more about tolerance and the search for truth. Can't get much better than tolerance and truth, can we?

beer and women?

Sassafrass Raistimass
01-25-2005, 01:15 AM
beer and women?Too young for beer and I'm convinced I'm asexual, so truth and tolerance will just have to suffice.

Lancet Jades
01-25-2005, 01:43 AM
NO I DON'T THINK RELIGION GOES TO FAR BECAUSE IT IS WHAT PEOPLE BELIEVE AND IF THEY WANT TO DRAG IT ON LET THEM
Please don't post in all caps, smokie.

Chicken Little
01-25-2005, 02:33 AM
you see well enough to reply to posts not written in caps.

Stormtrooper
01-28-2005, 08:22 PM
i believe they go a bit too far sometimes

nightsavior
01-31-2005, 03:24 AM
i think religion is cool so long as ppl don't push it down my throat or claim all other spiritual paths are wrong. i don't have problems with religion..i have problems with the ppl who try using it as a way to justify killing,raping,pillaging, and taking money from others. to be honest i cannot claim to hate all islamics. sure they have their jihad but fundamentalist christains have their inqusition and have done much blood spilling and witch burning that exceeds the casulty rate of suicide bombers. actually i should not pigeon hole christains but i will point an accusatory finger at the corrpted version of the church with their congregation of snobby money grubbing "wannabe" christains.
my philosphy is simple..


"imagine a world without killing

imagine a world of peace if you can..

no heaven above us no hell below...

just a world of people living in harmony the best they can.."

it's actually the lyrics of a great classic song..though i might have mistyped them a bit. i am spiritual yes and do believe in a higher power yes..but its something sacred and personal to me that i'd never force onto others.

Mr Bad Man
01-31-2005, 03:30 AM
I agree with blaze. It's not the religion it's the people.

In nz there was a mass that needed to use a church and they asked to catholic church's one said they didn't have enough space and just said no.

Then a non catholic church allowed them in.

Chicken Little
01-31-2005, 07:12 AM
I agree with blaze. It's not the religion it's the people.

In nz there was a mass that needed to use a church and they asked to catholic church's one said they didn't have enough space and just said no.

Then a non catholic church allowed them in.

religion is represented by the people with its philosophies and theories mutilated over time. Therefore religion itself is the people and not the actual theory, so to say that religin goes too far is the same as saying it is taken too far by fanatics.

Religion itself originated as an explanation and moved to a belief. Since then the mass of religion has been corrupted by people who both believe and represent, therefore taking the religion itself too far. You cant just go around saying 'it isnt the theories fault its all the peoples fault'

Religion is nothing without people.

Seraph Zero
01-31-2005, 03:40 PM
In essence, religion cannot exist without the people, yet it is the people that corrupt it, and lead to it's fall... kind of ironic....