View Full Version : Aerial Hunting - disgrace to hunting...
Dark Luther
02-08-2009, 01:39 AM
I found a few of these...
I was alrted to this, and thought it something to discuss...
At current moments - the laws of hunting and gun control are in debate and they are being defended hand in hand together...
But frankly I find this a disgrace...
I've hunted before - and this isn't even hunting.
It's just rich people who aren't fit enough to go for a hike,
or are too impatient ( or stupid ) to hunt normally...
Also a good hunter doesn't use a shotgun for these type of animals...
what's worse is they are hunting main predators that don't even effect humans...
That's kinda taboo among hunters that I know...
Coyote are one thing..., but wolves...?
I don't know, it kind of annoyed me hearing about it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrUTKBqOg7c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk&feature=related
Raist No. 2
02-08-2009, 02:12 AM
Those links aren't about "rich people trying to be hunters," they're predator control programs mandated by the state to keep moose and caribou levels high.
Miles
02-08-2009, 06:32 AM
He didn't say they were. He said that people who hunt that way aren't hunters. They're basically just lazy rich people who can't be bothered to get off their backsides.
To be honest. Hunting is wrong. I don't care what you wanna say or your opinion on the matter. Hunting for sport is wrong and I personally can't stand it.
Hunting to survive. I have no problem with that. If you live in a position where you have to do that, I don't see a problem with it.
Everyone needs to live and eat. Heck, animals do it and don't think of the life of the creature they're killing.
I can't be bothered to say the rest. I'm too sick to be on the end of someone's whining. So I'm stopping here.
Raist No. 2
02-08-2009, 08:17 AM
He didn't say they were. He said that people who hunt that way aren't hunters. They're basically just lazy rich people who can't be bothered to get off their backsides.Well no, they aren't hunters, they're people doing a job that the government's paying them to do, which implies neither richness nor laziness.
Dark Luther
02-09-2009, 03:32 AM
Actually this is only a half truth.
The main argument against this is that because licensed individuals are allowed to do animal control, this has turned into a loophole in using this hunting form.
The practice is viewed as needless since regular hunting methods are deemed enough for control by many hunters - who I've also heard complain that this "predator control" is allowed more liberty in hunting periods and choice of targets - something unfair to normal hunters.
Some argue that this is only used to control wilderness populations - but this seems counter to the evidence in other states...
Only in extreme over populations of predators does it particularly effect the prey habitation.
But the wolf population ( the one specificly being addressed ) is suffering from under population.
It's in danger of several factors - being hunted to extinction ( much like other sub species from the area ), but more likely it may be replaced completly by other sub species that were introduced to the area.
Aerial hunting really was only used by the soviet union when their wolf numbers became extremly massive.
Though it's true that hunting is done to control certain sub species - a major case being brought here is also the humane issue of shooting the animals in this fashion.
This is why several forms of hunting are outlawed in several states - including this form.
In my view - the practice really should only be reserved for desperate situations,
and the loophole of "licensed hunters" should be removed and reserved only for state rangers and state employees ( though even this should be controlled).
This is arguable as differant views side with having a larger herd stock - but at least they should be more selective in targets.
Yes, it's not as black and white as animal right activists state...,
but from a hunting aspect, there are clear problems with it.
I was actually at a loss to find a good video - thus I used those.
but the fact is they are also leaving the decision to those tied with bussiness that is effected by these predators,
and not taking any considerations from the scientific community...( not the animal rights lobby either, but they are usually ignored anyway... )
Doc Tram
02-09-2009, 07:46 PM
The hell? Since when did hunting wolves become legal? I always had the impression that wolves were underpopulated.
Raist No. 2
02-09-2009, 09:49 PM
The hell? Since when did hunting wolves become legal? I always had the impression that wolves were underpopulated.Not in Alaska.
Applejack
02-09-2009, 09:50 PM
Not in Alaska.
I hate you now because that reminded me of Napoleon Dynamite. And I fucking hate that movie.
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