Zelda: RPG or not?

[Lancet Jades]

Ok, you all know what this thread is about! Cast your vote!!

[Zelphiel]

yeah... I consider it a platformer.

[Chicken Little]

again it has features of many genres so in essence its a multiple genre so technically the answer is a yes. But since it has other genres also then the answer based not on technicalities is a no.

TOOTH NINJA!!!!!

[Leknaat]

I always just called it an action rpg. I never really knew how to classify it so....it got stuck with that. lol

[Silly Girl]

Nononononononono!!!! and whoever thinks so needs to play more games than RPGs and Zelda! You gain no experience, you get no level ups. It's an ACTION ADEVNTURE game.
You run around, you kill things (without switching to a battle screen OR mode), you make little money, get few upgrades for items (and you have to go on huge adventures for them, unlike most to all RPGs where you have to buy them at a specific store or find at a specific place) and you are only one character. Zelda is NOT an RPG... except the Adventures of Link which was an Action RPG, but it sucked... Imo...

[Zelphiel]

except the Adventures of Link which was an Action RPG, but it sucked... Imo...


I thought that game was good. :link it's one of my fav Zelda games. I consider the entire series a platforming series. It has more in common with games like Jak & Daxter and Crash than real RPGs.

[Leknaat]

I liked zelda II. I also play more than just rpg's and zelda games Silly Girl. That's why I said action in front of rpg..but anyway it really has alot of elements mixed into it so everyones' answer is going to be different

[Chicken Little]

RPG - Role Play Game

nowhere does it say must contain lvl ups, must shift screens for battles, must gain exp or must play like any other game with the rpg tag.
Player takes the ROLE of Zelda ina FANTASY world and lo and behold it plays out a story, no matter how mediocre or short it is. SO therefore Zelda contains RPG elements and henceforth can be classified as an RPG.

Those who dont see that should be playing games at all.

*shoots, swish, 2pts*

[Ricdeau]

you're wrong. Note how Jak and Daxter is called a platformer even though theres a lot more to it than jumping from platform to platform.

[Lancet Jades]

yeah, but there ARE a lot more RPG-esque elements in Zelda games than in J&D. But that doesnt mean they are RPGs. The vast majotiry of the game is action/adventure (which is sort of the middle ground between RPGs and platformers, i think...)

[Dragoon Taryn]

RPG - Role Play Game

nowhere does it say must contain lvl ups, must shift screens for battles, must gain exp or must play like any other game with the rpg tag.
Player takes the ROLE of Zelda ina FANTASY world and lo and behold it plays out a story, no matter how mediocre or short it is. SO therefore Zelda contains RPG elements and henceforth can be classified as an RPG.

Those who dont see that should be playing games at all.

*shoots, swish, 2pts*

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! I'm sorry, that is a wrong answer, you do not win the prize!

Role-playing is not a literal term. If it was, then there would be no such thing as an RPG because in every damn game created you are taking on the role of someone or something (role-playing!). So sorry, but an RPG game is one with leveling up, EXP, MP, HP, AKA games like Final Fantasy and Suikoden.

[Lancet Jades]

Yeah, i am going with what taryn said. That sums it up. And for that reason, i laugh at doc, who thinks Metal gear solid 2 is an RPG. bwahahhhahahhahahhha

[Chicken Little]

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! I'm sorry, that is a wrong answer, you do not win the prize!

Role-playing is not a literal term. If it was, then there would be no such thing as an RPG because in every damn game created you are taking on the role of someone or something (role-playing!). So sorry, but an RPG game is one with leveling up, EXP, MP, HP, AKA games like Final Fantasy and Suikoden.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTT close but no cigar!

But considering that is the consensus of the general populace it is easy to assume it is right. But yes it is true that role playing is a general concept evident in all games made but also in games such as J&D and Zelda do they not have HP indicators? Strange i wondered what those red hearts were, now i can just ignore them ^_^.

Please note i didnt say it was JUST and RPG i stated that it contained elements and could be called one which no one has yet denied to this point. And also you could say that Zelda has a lvl up system in gaining extra hearts therefore increasing a stat. OMFG i hear you say? So the only criteria which it misses out on are MP which can also be swapped with the strength of the weapon when hearts are full, and the extra selection of sub weapons available aka boomerang and bomb, and then of course the EXP.

Platformer doesnt mean literal platforms it means the style of gamplay and the way it was designed. J&D was designed as a platformer with restrictions set in such cases that it would adhere to what a platformer is. Oh and btw thanks for the vote of confidence in openly saying your wrong, so may i retalliate with your an idiot then? no guess not oh well :lancy lol

etc etc etc

[Leknaat]

my my this is becoming quite the lively topic. I guess everyone in here is going to have to agree to disagree...lol

[Lancet Jades]

well,all things considered, only one person has voted yes, and he has yet to make an argument (unless he already did)

[Chicken Little]

yeah i noticed that too lol

and i mean whats the point fo a poll if theres no discussion about the reasoning, sure you can vote yes or no and say oh i felt like it but wheres the fun in that?

[Dragoon Taryn]

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTT close but no cigar!

But considering that is the consensus of the general populace it is easy to assume it is right. But yes it is true that role playing is a general concept evident in all games made but also in games such as J&D and Zelda do they not have HP indicators? Strange i wondered what those red hearts were, now i can just ignore them ^_^.

Please note i didnt say it was JUST and RPG i stated that it contained elements and could be called one which no one has yet denied to this point. And also you could say that Zelda has a lvl up system in gaining extra hearts therefore increasing a stat. OMFG i hear you say? So the only criteria which it misses out on are MP which can also be swapped with the strength of the weapon when hearts are full, and the extra selection of sub weapons available aka boomerang and bomb, and then of course the EXP.

Platformer doesnt mean literal platforms it means the style of gamplay and the way it was designed. J&D was designed as a platformer with restrictions set in such cases that it would adhere to what a platformer is. Oh and btw thanks for the vote of confidence in openly saying your wrong, so may i retalliate with your an idiot then? no guess not oh well :lancy lol

etc etc etc

I'm SOOOOOO sorry to burst your bubble, but every game has HP, whether it be in the form of Hearts, numbers, bananas, heck, even Mario games have a type of HP.

How do you prove there are stats and stuff in Zelda there buster? You can't. There's no numbers or even a damned screen that shows Link's Strength, Defense, Magic Defense, Magic Strength. See, my little idiotic enemy? Link gets more hearts, but that doesn't mean he's getting stronger. Even shooting games allow you to gain more health. Face it, getting more health in a game isn't an RPG quality, so you can flush that theory down the toilet.

Oh, you wanna talk Platformer, do you? Back in the wonderful world of 2-D graphics, most Platformers had characters that jumped FROM PLATFORM TO PLATFORM. Now that the 3-D graphics have emerged, it isn't as linear, but it's still a platformer.

So, when YOU decide to come around and admit that Zelda isn't an RPG, if I'm in a NICE mood, I may just forgive you for being so incompetent.

EDIT: Jesus Christ Fly, I didn't even know that was you. Stop trying to deliberately piss me off. ;)

[Lancet Jades]

Lol, having a lover's tat there, taryn? XD

I agree wholeheartedly with taryn and her viewpoints on this particular matter [/ass kissing]

lol

[Zelphiel]

I walk through the valley of the shadow of RPG n00bs, yet I fear no evil. It's the stupidity I fear. Inspired by the n00bs who think FF7 is god and that Zelda is an RPG

lol, is this new or have I just not been paying attention?

and... in the older zeldas Link wasn't a jumper, except for in 2, but it's still a platformer. there were other games like that that were considered to be platformers. some people... I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just rambling at this point... think that Zelda is an rpg because it's in a "fantasy" setting and it has magic in it. Those qualities aren't unique to the role playing genre...

[Chicken Little]

o.0 actually your the one who stated HP as a prerequisite in your previous post :p

but an RPG game is one with leveling up, EXP, MP, HP, AKA games like Final Fantasy and Suikoden. :)

and like i said i voted that Zelda IS NOT an rpg so believe it or not but i agree with your argument as much as me having my own argument for the case for Zelda having rpg elements in it.

Anywho err HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII BABE *waves* ^_^'

[Silly Girl]

Ever game has RPG qualities. Heck, every game has qualities of other game genres in it! The fact is not it's minor qualities but it's general one. Zelda, in general, is an action-adventure game. Therefore it's under that category, no other.

[Chicken Little]

and its that kinda ignorance of the masses that make me think of lemmings *spaces out and chuckles as the lemmings commit mass suicide* anyway the fact is Zelda has mre qualities that could make it more so then other games or else what is the reason for the devate and the thread. If it was so clear cut as you say people wouldnt think otherwise, but they do so obviously it isnt as clear cut as we would like to think.

[Ricdeau]

No...Zelda is not an RPG. It has more common elements of an adventure game like Jak and Daxter. Ocarina of time has a million similarities to a 3D adventure game. Yet, it has no more than perhaps 3 similarities to an RPG

[Zelphiel]

I just realized how pointless this argument is.... the people that think it's an rpg aren't going to change their minds.. same with the people that don't.

[Chicken Little]

am i speaking jibberish or sumthing? what part of i agree with Zelda not being an rpg means i think its an rpg? For christ sake where is the damn point in this thread being here if all you ppl are going to do is say yeah its not, nah it isnt, nah its an action adventure definately. I mean seriously im surprised you can carry on a damn conversation only having one side to everything, i sware youd all make a buncha good yes men.

[Chaos Theory]

Its more of a Adventure RPG

[Laggy]

tis a RPG type with alot of RPG stuff but tis not a real RPG IMO cause theres no lvl up really and also theres no battle system other then walking around and see a guy and cut his ass up...

[Lancet Jades]

That battle system, and all too many components of the game are indicitave of a adventure/platformer game, not an RPG...

[Sabin]

What's to vote...it's not an RPG>_>

It's an action/platform game...just like DC >_>

[Lancet Jades]

If by DC you mean dark cloud, i'll actually have to disagree. I consider DC a RPG too, but an action RPG. Zelda, however, most definitely isnt >_<

[Sabin]

Why do you consider DC an RPG? It has no level system, you do not go into battle screens, and you cannot attack in formations.

Identical to Zelda IMO...Sony just go cheap :p

[Lancet Jades]

But its more of an RPG than Zelda. Although you dont level up, your weapons do. And your weapons gain stats, and have special abilities, and your characters DO gain stats (HP, defense and water level), plus you have an inventory with tons of items and stuff.

[Ricdeau]

Exactly what I was going to say. DC does have stats, and plus I have to argue for it because it Ro><orz j00r bo><orz [/stealing quotes]

[nightsavior]

i think it doesn't matter whether zelda is an rpg or action game..either way it's a nastalgic endearing series that keeps us enthralled despite rehashing the same"save princess" story line again and again. actually majora's mask wasn't so much about saving zelda as it was saving the world but you get the point. as for the wind waker haven't played it yet so i don't know what its plot is.

[Zelphiel]

as for the wind waker haven't played it yet so i don't know what its plot is.


in a nutshell....

saving the princess. :chuckle

[Chaos Theory]

I thought it was save your sister?

[Laggy]

lol thats how it starts...then it just goes into some twisty turnys and you end up saving zelda ..kinda... lmao!...

the ending is short and it sucked...but the overall game play was okay...my brother rules in that game. .lol hes good at all zelda games

[Silly Girl]

But I thought Zelda WAS your sister. Just like in LttP:
Uncle: "Link... Zelda is your..."
Link: "Is my what? My WHAAAAT?"
Uncle: "Your... SISTER!"

DC's not an RPG? But I thought... I coulda swore... oh, okay, that makes sense now. They called it an RPG on the box though, didn't they? Bastards...

[Lancet Jades]

Both Dark clouds are RPGs. But DC2 is much more of one than DC1 (much better too ^_^)

[Gravity]

Nononononononono!!!! and whoever thinks so needs to play more games than RPGs and Zelda! You gain no experience, you get no level ups. It's an ACTION ADEVNTURE game.
You run around, you kill things (without switching to a battle screen OR mode), you make little money, get few upgrades for items (and you have to go on huge adventures for them, unlike most to all RPGs where you have to buy them at a specific store or find at a specific place) and you are only one character. Zelda is NOT an RPG... except the Adventures of Link which was an Action RPG, but it sucked... Imo...

Was thinking the same, but I'm too lazy to type.
So, I agree with the silly girl.. :)

[Pinkie Pie]

Hotaru's vote is in! Zelda = action game = not RPG. I agree with what the majority of what the ppl here have said, no leveling up, no... blah, blah, blah... I'm way to lazy right now to write a novel on it, so yeah.

[Altima]

I think it is a RPG even tho I believe its referred to being more of an adventure game.

[Kal]

it's partially an rpg game i think. but their are some things that make it not an rpg.

[Zelphiel]

no... there's nearly everything that makes it not an rpg.

just because it's in a 'fantasy' type setting doesn't mean anything.