Work related things...

[Altima]

Actually I have a lady friend from work taking me home Sunday morning after we go out for breakfast. Another friend of ours also may attend. She may be 38 and married for the 2nd time but who knows about what will happen, our friend says we should just "do it" so you know whatever, perhaps they have been talking about somethings without my knowledge...? My dad doesn't give a shit at all if she is married or not lol. He just wants his grandchild I think.

She does want a 2nd child and her 2nd husband hasn't given her 1 in 3 years of trying so that is good for me I suppose. She has also said something about us going to the movies and taking me to her home country of Ecuador someday. I am starting to seriously think that she wants me which even tho she is married could be possible, I bet that married people cheat every single day. She is very hot and doesn't look her age at all.

I really need to clean up my room again in order to make it all nice and stuff. I don't want anyone seeing a dirty room, it is a good thing I cleaned it laast week as I was going to have them over that Sunday morning but I cancelled it a bit since I wasn't sure she would want to come over since her mother died of cancer early last week.

In other news our store is falling apart or maybe I should say that lots of people have left for the new store up the road which has left many deprtment manager positions open which are all level 6 jobs except for Lawn and Garden which is a level 7. Actually the one I would of wanted was taken already so I doubt I will pursue any since they are not really worth the little bit of extra money. The headaches outweigh the little bit of extra cash which wouldn't be much since I would lose $.75 since i'd be leaving nights.

Anyway I will say later next week how it all turns out.

Anyone else have any exciting news from their workplaces?

[Ashe]

not really, just starting to be moved around from stores around here since apparently noone has managers lol, but if i were you id stay away... maybe hit it once but id be careful around a married girl with kids

[The Deity]

Indeed that doesn't sound like a positive situation. She's openly talking about cheating on her second husband? And she has a kid? And she's 17 years older than you? Uh, that doesn't sound like a smart situation...

However, I don't support the "hit it once and run" club. You'd be stuck around her at work constantly I presume. Don't create that tension.

[Kaffee]

Dude I'd be careful with that shit, you might just find yourself getting into more trouble than she's worth. I'm not your dad or anything, but some men would kill the guy they find diddling their wife. Keep that in mind.

[Zelphiel]

Husbands are dangerous dude.

be careful with what you decide to do.

[Altima]

I think you are all taking it a bit too serious. It is just plain fun is all nothing more, at least in my mind. I have no idea what they may have said or anything like that, it just seems like harmless fun to me.

Indeed that doesn't sound like a positive situation. She's openly talking about cheating on her second husband?

Has never said anything like that. Says he is stupid from time to time as he won't let her buy Santa Claus things as he doesn't appear in the bible, he is like a saint, a stupid one too.

And she has a kid? And she's 17 years older than you?

I actually like women 30 and older more than people around my own age. Most girls at my age are just too stupid for me to have any kind of interest in.

[Applejack]

She wants a child. Her husband hasn't given her one. She turns to you? She wants to take you to Ecuador?

Now, I'm no genius when it comes to women, but this has "ABORT MISSION" written all over it.

[The Deity]

I think you are all taking it a bit too serious.

Like it or not adultry is serious even if it is not illegal.

It is just plain fun is all nothing more, at least in my mind. I have no idea what they may have said or anything like that, it just seems like harmless fun to me.

Let me remind you:

She may be 38 and married for the 2nd time but who knows about what will happen, our friend says we should just "do it" so you know whatever, perhaps they have been talking about somethings without my knowledge...?

That's what they're saying.


(She)Has never said anything like that. Says he is stupid from time to time as he won't let her buy Santa Claus things as he doesn't appear in the bible, he is like a saint, a stupid one too.

Fine, she didn't explicitly say that, but forgive assumptions when she does say:


She does want a 2nd child and her 2nd husband hasn't given her 1 in 3 years of trying so that is good for me I suppose.

And

She has also said something about us going to the movies and taking me to her home country of Ecuador someday.

Then you even think:

I am starting to seriously think that she wants me which even tho she is married could be possible, I bet that married people cheat every single day. She is very hot and doesn't look her age at all.

Now if you want to get involved with a married woman, that's your business and not mine. But don't act like this is entirely speculation based on your entire first post. We're all just posting our advice. Obviously no one can make you, but I'd find a better spot if I were you.

[Ashe]

for sure and that hit it once comment was a joke btw, but if i were you, theres obviously something.... STUPID about her if shes got a 2nd husband and hes not giving out or something and she turns to someone at work? and 18 or w/e years younger? not the brightest woman if you ask me but hey, if you wanna risk something big and trust me... it wont matter if its HARMLESS fun to you when the husband and shit comes through man, best step off and let her dream because thats got trouble left and right and its not gonna be worth the trouble and bullshit youll go through.

[Altima]

Well she came over my house as she took me home Sunday morning and was there from about 7:45am to 9:00am.

Things got a bit interesting and hot. She was rubbing me a lot, and giving me some kisses and even using her tongue to clean my right ear sort of. We laid on the bed for a while and snuggled a bit and I rubbed her back and her...assets. She was a bit horny or something, im starting to wonder if it is all still just playing around as she is a bit laid back and crazy like myself or if she is more serious than I think.

No matter how I slice it, I really enjoyed it. I will have to wait for some time to see where this all goes and to find out for myself how serious she actually is since she has me a bit flustered if anything.

[Midnight]

Anyone remember Mrs. Jones here??? lol Seriously....I'm 35 and I'll tell you what I think she's doing. She's not happy in her current situtation..so perhaps you are a distraction? I wouldn't mess around too much...her husband finds out there is no telling what he might do!!!! I suppose the most he would do (b/c he would be embaressed...a 21 year old young man has his wifes attention) would be ruin you at your work place or something. Shame on her for using you like she is though..and, if I knew her (being close to her age as well...) I would tell her that!!! Be careful......

[The Deity]

even using her tongue to clean my right ear sort of

:hmm

There's just no way to make a wet-willy hot.

[Altima]

:hmm

There's just no way to make a wet-willy hot.

It isn't like she went for my ear drum lol.

I actually forgot to say that she gave me a small hicky at the base of my neck on the right side so it is hidden under my shirt so that no one actually sees it.

[jethro]

well....i have no advice for you but i think this is rather interesting lol so keep us updated

[Night]

As long as you keep it to shit that nobody can see you'll be okay...

Psyche!

Any way you look at it she's using you. Don't get it twisted, getting used can feel good, but you're still being used.

[Altima]

She actually called me earlier at 6:45 am, as I am up at that time on my days off. She wants to take me home on Sunday morning and to even come down on Thursday when she is off and asked me if that was ok and if my mom would get angry and I said it was fine, which may have been a mistake. My dad said he didn't approve of what i'm doing as she is married and it is wrong and I agree with that actually although I do wish it be left up to me. I just said I don't think it is a big deal as it really isn't to me.

To me it just seems like a little bit of nothing or at least in my mind it is. I don't want to get seriously involved with a married women 17 years older than me and I don't want to get tied down or anything yet at all. I still have things to do like go traveling, or back to school which would be harder with a girlfriend let alone a married women that may actually really want me.

Although it is just harmless fun in my mind im not too sure how she actually feels about all of this. I am not sure if she is serious with some of the things she says or if she is just messing around. One thing is for sure I think I had better find out pretty soon and then set things straight.

She isn't worth possibly getting my ass kicked for, as only a women I truly loved would be worth that. I don't think she is the type to cheat on her husband, I just don't see it with her but then again you really don't see it with a lot of people I bet. Either way I will need to see what she thinks about all of this soon enough, I am just wondering about how, and when to bring it up.

[jethro]

well i hope everything turns out good for you

[Ashe]

beat up for? dude if hes got any sense or whatever id do more than kick your ass id at least made sure you were sent to the hospital if you fuckin my wife/girl... nothing anymore really is 'harmless' one way or another therell be harm, be it you getting knocked the fuck out or her getting depressed or even let down that you wont settle with her or something, and if shes like cuddling and lickin your ear or whatnot, shes definitely got more in mind that just "playing around" she wants to get down if you know what i mean lol, but i gotta stick with your dad on that one, if i did that my dad would prolly kick my ass lol.........

id personally say to stop what your doing because theres nothing GOOD that coming out of it, its just going to be bad. Cuz shes at work with you and this and that, everythings just not going to stay the same therell be plenty of differences and things like that thats just going to make your life even more shitty *DRAAAAMMMAAAAA* up ahead :p

[The Deity]

Let's try this again...

I don't think she is the type to cheat on her husband, I just don't see it with her but then again you really don't see it with a lot of people I bet.

Really now...

She actually called me earlier at 6:45 am, as I am up at that time on my days off.

She wants to take me home on Sunday morning and to even come down on Thursday when she is off and asked me if that was ok and if my mom would get angry and I said it was fine


I am not sure if she is serious with some of the things she says or if she is just messing around. One thing is for sure I think I had better find out pretty soon and then set things straight.

Well she definitely could be, and even you admit it.


In all honesty I don't really care if you mess around with an older woman, but you're really setting yourself up to fail with this one. I'm sure what she's doing to you feels good, but seriously, is it worth it? You live with your parents, who don't like it; you work with her, which could end up bad if this falls through; and she's married, which could be even worse.

I'm not sure what you define as cheating, but I don't think making out with you in your bed is quite what her husband had in mind when they talked about being exclusive.

[Altima]

Yeah I really do need to do something about all of this pretty fast. I just have to be careful about how I do but no matter what, I don't think she would give me any problems at work if I said we should stop doing this foolishness before it gets out of hand.

I'm not sure what you define as cheating, but I don't think making out with you in your bed is quite what her husband had in mind when they talked about being exclusive.

I wouldn't say we were seriously making out but i'd never want my wife on any guys bed. Although i'd never have a problem with her having guy friends and going out with them and all of that. That is why I need to simply distinguish that we can hang around each other but not in that way.

[Altima]

Even tho it hasn't had a new reply I thought i'd put this in here as I figured some things out.

She was over yesterday when she brought me home from work and I can NO longer deny that she wants to have sex with me! She went as far as to put her boob in my mouth, kissed all over me and all of that, and even saidhe wants to make love to me. I am not sure what it is, but she clearly wants me. I have the worst luck, if only she was someone unattached that I could get involved with.

Before I tried to say that she was just doing stupid stuff to mess with me a bit or to fluster me and that it was no big deal. Now however there is absolutely no denying any of it. If she wasn't married I may go for it for sure even if she is a bit older than me, she is really hot and looks younger than her age. Of course I know that I can't do anything with her. I think she asked me if it was alright or something in the time we spent as she sat on my lap but I couldn't get anything out.

I was so surprised about what was gonig on that I may have been a bit frozen to actually come up with thoughts and words. I also want to watch how I handle it because I would still like to be her friend afterwords if that is possible and I think it is easily possible.

She said she's never cheated before but that there is something about me that just make her horny. I wish I knew what it was so I could use it on girls my age that aren't married or involved with anyone.

[The Deity]

You're handling this with a much smarter mentality than you started the thread with. At least you've taken time to think about whatever it is you do. If I had to guess, I would assume she's probably cheated before, maybe not on her husband, but at some point in her past.

[Altima]

If I had to guess, I would assume she's probably cheated before, maybe not on her husband, but at some point in her past.

No she said that she has never cheated on him beofre but that there is something about me that turns her on. She did say once that she likes me because im crazy, funny, and just fun. Afterall who she is with now wouldn't even ;et her buy a thing because it had a Santa Claus hat on it. He said since he wasn't in the bible or something he didn't want it in her house. Perhaps he has worn her down a bit.

He is her 2nd husband as she left her 1st apprantly because they only had sex once a year. I don't think she ever cheated in him either.

That is why I was so surprised that she has done as she has done with me, she just doesn't look the cheating type at all. I guess im attractive at least to her in some way.

[Applejack]

No she said that she has never cheated on him beofre .



Just because she said something, doesn't make it true. For all you know she HAS cheated before and is just telling you what she thinks you want, or need, to hear.

[Miles]

No she said that she has never cheated on him beofre but that there is something about me that turns her on. She did say once that she likes me because im crazy, funny, and just fun. Afterall who she is with now wouldn't even ;et her buy a thing because it had a Santa Claus hat on it. He said since he wasn't in the bible or something he didn't want it in her house. Perhaps he has worn her down a bit.



If he's that much of a whatever and she's THAT unhappy. Then why doesn't she simply leave him?

Personally. I think she's an idiot. There's no excuse for being a dirty love rat. None at all.

She seems pretty happy to go off with you for someone who's "not the type to cheat" or who "hasn't" cheated.

I'd say that she's lying and she has cheated. She seems a little too comfortable with the situation.

[The Deity]

No she said

Said does not equal truth. I didn't say she did cheat on him, I would just guess she has.

He is her 2nd husband as she left her 1st apprantly because they only had sex once a year. I don't think she ever cheated in him either.

:hmm

Just some more speculation, but I doubt any husband would only want sex once a year especially if she is, as you say, attractive.

That is why I was so surprised that she has done as she has done with me, she just doesn't look the cheating type at all. I guess im attractive at least to her in some way.

How do you 'look' like the cheating type? More specifically how do women that are cheaters look? I've never noticed a correlation. Seriously, this can have nothing to do with your situation. I want to know for my own records.

If he's that much of a whatever and she's THAT unhappy. Then why doesn't she simply leave him?

Women don't like to leave a guy they're steady with, or especially married to, until they have a full plan set up. IE: new place, new guy, etc.

In all honesty, I don't blame her in that regard. Not that I think she should stay, but I understand why she's still there.

Personally. I think she's an idiot. There's no excuse for being a dirty love rat. None at all.


That's fair

She seems pretty happy to go off with you for someone who's "not the type to cheat" or who "hasn't" cheated.

I'd say that she's lying and she has cheated. She seems a little too comfortable with the situation.

Just because she feels comfortable around another man while on rocky times with her current one, it doesn't inherently mean she's a habitual cheater. However, I agree with your general sentiment. She seems a bit like a *insert-bad-word*.

[Altima]

Just because she said something, doesn't make it true. For all you know she HAS cheated before and is just telling you what she thinks you want, or need, to hear.

I doubt it, I don't need to hear anything special to go either way. I will simply decide on what to do down the road and I am pretty sure I already have my option chosen regardless.

If he's that much of a whatever and she's THAT unhappy. Then why doesn't she simply leave him?

Survival I would think.

Personally. I think she's an idiot. There's no excuse for being a dirty love rat. None at all.

Just because you may find an interest in someone else doesn't make you a "dirty love rat". Afterall 50% of marriages fail because 1 or both of them don't feel accomadated for in some area or another.

She seems pretty happy to go off with you for someone who's "not the type to cheat" or who "hasn't" cheated.

I believe 100% that she has never cheated. She doesn't sem the type as it is usually easy to tell when someone is lying to you or saying something untruthful.

I'd say that she's lying and she has cheated. She seems a little too comfortable with the situation.

I wouldn't say that she is comfortable with the situation. She is worried about being caught perhaps. Her husband does know about me as she says who she hangs out with at work and everything.

Said does not equal truth. I didn't say she did cheat on him, I would just guess she has.

Yes but I could tell if she was lying I do believe.

Just some more speculation, but I doubt any husband would only want sex once a year especially if she is, as you say, attractive.

That is weird, but maybe he just wasn't a normal horny guy.

How do you 'look' like the cheating type? More specifically how do women that are cheaters look? I've never noticed a correlation. Seriously, this can have nothing to do with your situation. I want to know for my own records.

Maybe I should of said that she doesn't seem like the cheating type.

Just because she feels comfortable around another man while on rocky times with her current one, it doesn't inherently mean she's a habitual cheater. However, I agree with your general sentiment. She seems a bit like a *insert-bad-word*.

Yes a woman can feel comfortable with another man just like a man an fel comfortable with another woman. Just because you are married doesn't mean you don't run into other people that may fit your lifestyle or personality more than the person that you are currently with.


Honestly if I was on the outside looking in, I would probably say that she seems like a cheater or a whore but since I actually talk to her and see her I won't say that as it just doesn't seem to be the case.

[Applejack]

I believe 100% that she has never cheated. She doesn't sem the type as it is usually easy to tell when someone is lying to you or saying something untruthful.

As much as you would like that scenario, it may not be true. It's a bit of a stretch, or at least it seems to be, to just up and decide to have an affair with a co-worker. I'm guessing she has some skeletons that she just hasn't told you about.



I wouldn't say that she is comfortable with the situation. She is worried about being caught perhaps. Her husband does know about me as she says who she hangs out with at work and everything.

Has she mentioned you by name? If so, that's even worse, especially if he finds out.




Maybe I should of said that she doesn't seem like the cheating type.


Neither does my dad. Didn't stop him. People are prone to doing things that you might never suspect them of doing.



Honestly if I was on the outside looking in, I would probably say that she seems like a cheater or a whore but since I actually talk to her and see her I won't say that as it just doesn't seem to be the case.


She certainly doesn't seem to be the latter, all things considered, but I'm still banking on the possibility of the former. I'm not saying she's a habitual cheater, but she seems as if this is nothing new to her.

[Miles]

Honestly if I was on the outside looking in, I would probably say that she seems like a cheater or a whore but since I actually talk to her and see her I won't say that as it just doesn't seem to be the case.

You said yourself that you know she wants to sleep with you. She's a married woman and you've already been up to certain things with her.
Cheating is cheating, whether you know a person well or not.

So many people "don't seem like the type" and in fact...They are.
It doesn't matter much about what she has done in the past, though...It's the fact that she's willing to cheat on her husband now. That there, all on its own, makes her the "cheating type".

And I'd be totally worried that he knows about you. No matter what she's been saying. If he knows your name...And if she talks about you more than anyone else...Who do you think he'll come gunning for if you do take this a step too far?

[The Deity]

So many people "don't seem like the type" and in fact...They are.
It doesn't matter much about what she has done in the past, though...It's the fact that she's willing to cheat on her husband now. That there, all on its own, makes her the "cheating type".

I don't really think cheating one time in your life makes you the "cheating type." A cheater? Sure. But not the "cheating type." Especially if kissing on him has been all she's done.

And I'd be totally worried that he knows about you. No matter what she's been saying. If he knows your name...And if she talks about you more than anyone else...Who do you think he'll come gunning for if you do take this a step too far?

:hmm

What woman would talk to her husband regularly about a guy she likes more than him?

[Elisa Maza]

Personally, I don't beleive any of this is actually happening at all. But regardless, reading all this is bringing back bad memories of my ex-husband. If on the off-chance this actually is happening, that woman deserves to get a sex-change so I can kick her in the balls. With steel-tipped boots. With a bevvy of iron spikes attatched.

It's completely jerkoffish of me to say this, but I don't forgive people who even think about cheating. If I know about it, from then on I don't like them, I want absolutely nothing to do with them, and if I see them face to face, I'll spit in their goddamn eye. It's immoral, it's wrong, and if found out, it can utterly destroy your partner mentally, emotionally and even physically. I don't think that having a married woman flirt with you is something to be proud of, expecially since you seem to be doing nothing to push her away. Provided this is actually happening, which I don't beleive it is.

[Tirk Renard]

I'd place this to be a clever story of sorts (perhaps a soap-opera?), but thats something I'd expect from Droog.. Alas I don't know Karou very well so this could be anything. If it is real.. All I can say is, damn.. In my opinion, you know its wrong, thats why you posted here in the first place, your subconscious is screaming at you. Maybe you should listen ^^; But, you don't sound like some horny young adult, curious perhaps.. Tho I am rather curious myself to see how this 'story' plays out. Better make it interesting! Do try and not get killed.

[Kaffee]

Kimiko, I don't know who did that too you, but he's a fool, cause you're a good person. And Karou, she right and you know it.

[Tirk Renard]

By the sounds of it Kaffee, Kimiko took care of the issue via steel-tipped boots ^^ Still, that brings up another point. Would you want to get involved with somone who is liable to cheat? It works both ways! How long before shes onto her next fling. Take that into consideration.

[Altima]

Has she mentioned you by name? If so, that's even worse, especially if he finds out.

Yes actually she has. She said something about going to dinner with me or something as he was going out with his friends one day. He isn't the jealous type she says and i'm guessing he goes out with men and women alike.

Personally, I don't beleive any of this is actually happening at all.

I couldn't fabricate this kind of story.

Better make it interesting! Do try and not get killed.

Death comes to us all eventually, it is nothing to fear.

Would you want to get involved with somone who is liable to cheat? It works both ways! How long before shes onto her next fling. Take that into consideration.

I wouldn't care if she did. I don't care about anyone but myself and I think that men are superior to woman and that no woman is really worth that much of my time. I've never met a woman that I believed to be a strong woman....actually I did once and that is the only time I thought a woman was worth anything other than actually being needed to reproduce.

Of course a person's main female influence that makes him see woman as anything would be his mother and I have no respect for my mother. She is a pathetic weak excuse for a woman who doesn't even deserve to breathe the air, she is a waste of space. She can't even go shopping by herself and drags me everywhere with her, she couldnt even drive up the road to pick up my dads glasses by herself, she is worthless! I'm not going to always be around to tag along with her, so she had better get used to going places alone because my dad hates going everywhere with her too.

I'm not really trying to be sexist or anything but I have just learned this through time. I am sure that there are other strong women out there, I just haven't met them yet. That and most of the girls I see are being pushed around in carts and doing stupid things in Wal-Mart at all hours of the night. I can't stand stupidity which is why I prefer older women as they are out of that act stupid stage or perhaps many of these girls really just are complete idiots.

[jethro]

I think that men are superior to woman and that no woman is really worth that much of my time. I've never met a woman that I believed to be a strong woman....actually I did once and that is the only time I thought a woman was worth anything other than actually being needed to reproduce.
.

Now this is just a ridiculous statement

[Miles]

Kaoru! You are the biggest loser I have ever met!

"Women are weak"

"I'm not sexist"

Contradict yourself much! That's all you ever do!
That's one reason why Kimiko probly doesn't believe you...You step over yourself too much.
People tend to do that when they're lying.

To be honest, you and that...Thing you call a woman, deserve each other.
I feel sorry for her husband...Being married to that trash.

I wonder if she'd like the fact that you actually make her sound like a whore. Cos you do. You make her sound like she's some dirty thing that needs to learn to keep her knickers on.

You have no respect for anyone, which is why it's actually hard to believe that any woman would give you the time of day. Unless you're one of those men that lie to get someone in to bed, spin them a few lines...And then leave before they wake up the next morning.

You're the type of person that gives the male race a very, very bad name!

[Altima]

Now this is just a ridiculous statement

Yes I agree, I wasn't trying to sound too bastardly. It always comes out that way but with what I see everyday of women in our area it is my only conclusion towards most women or perhaps most women my own age. They are so stupid most of the time.

Kaoru! You are the biggest loser I have ever met!

Not really, you are just too naive. Perhaps you have seen women who are strong where I have not.

Women are weak"

"I'm not sexist"

I think I said that most women are weak, I have met maybe a slight few that are strong and they are the ones that interest me into actually wanting to pursue any kind of relationship.

To be honest, you and that...Thing you call a woman, deserve each other.
I feel sorry for her husband...Being married to that trash.

Don't call her trash, everyone isn't like you. Like I know I said earlier 50% of marriages fail. Just because you say that you will be with someone forever doesn't make it true. Time wears all things down even people and their feelings towards each other until they grow so far apart that they seem to barely know each other anymore.

wonder if she'd like the fact that you actually make her sound like a whore. Cos you do. You make her sound like she's some dirty thing that needs to learn to keep her knickers on.

I have never said anything that should make anyone think she is a whore. I am defendingn her a bit, as I don't see her as a whore at all. Her "knickers" as you call them have never come off.

You have no respect for anyone, which is why it's actually hard to believe that any woman would give you the time of day. Unless you're one of those men that lie to get someone in to bed, spin them a few lines...And then leave before they wake up the next morning.

I'm not one of those guys that lies to women in any way. I am just me plain and simple. I am very well liked by everyone at work or that knows me and probably no one has anything bad to say about me. I'm a strange, crazy kind of person that always has fun and makes others do the same. I have been wondering why she has such an interest in me myself. I would like to find that out just so that I know the answer.

You're the type of person that gives the male race a very, very bad name!

That was a bit sexist in my opinion. I actually don't give them a bad name. Go find the guys that actually do lie to women and do anything to sleep with them or that rape and beat them. I am none of the above, I have been nothing but honest about everything. You should have learned by now that I don't care enough to lie about anything.


When I said that women were weak, I didn't mean all of them. It was mainly aimed towards my own mother and the way that she is. I know her and you don't so you wouldn't know how pathetic and stupid she actually is.

[Dark Marmosett]

Kaoru! You are the biggest loser I have ever met!

"Women are weak"

"I'm not sexist"

Contradict yourself much! That's all you ever do!
That's one reason why Kimiko probly doesn't believe you...You step over yourself too much.
People tend to do that when they're lying.

To be honest, you and that...Thing you call a woman, deserve each other.
I feel sorry for her husband...Being married to that trash.

I wonder if she'd like the fact that you actually make her sound like a whore. Cos you do. You make her sound like she's some dirty thing that needs to learn to keep her knickers on.

You have no respect for anyone, which is why it's actually hard to believe that any woman would give you the time of day. Unless you're one of those men that lie to get someone in to bed, spin them a few lines...And then leave before they wake up the next morning.

You're the type of person that gives the male race a very, very bad name!
I agree completely holly all the way through. His statement was a bit absent minded and foolish calling men superior to women. And such a statement about his family even like that. You live at home with them yet you talk about them like that behind their backs. Especially the woman that gave you life....if anyone doesn't deserve what she gave for you. Its you...seriously. She has as much right to live as the next person. Women are just as much as mens equals as well and they are just as strong as men. Maybe not physically. But sure as hell mentally. I seriously find every part there rediculous. If women are inferior to men. They why don't you just dump that piece of trash bitch right now that has her arms around wanting to do all sorts of things despite and I quote "that no woman is really worth that much of my time." Yet you're wasting your time here with this thread talking about her. You simply are making no sense left and right.

Not really, you are just too naive. Perhaps you have seen women who are strong where I have not.
Seriously...kimiko is one of the strongest minded and willed women I know of save my mother and my sister....I seriously can't wait to see what Kimiko says when she reads all of this. You congratulated her and was happy cause of her being strong and all of that for pulling through her recent endeavors in the hospital yet you still call women weak. You make no sense

That was a bit sexist in my opinion.
Oh ho. Since when is what she said not allowed to be said...oh wait...its probably cause Holly is a woman maybe? Feh, but calling women inferior to men isn't sexist at all?

I have never said anything that should make anyone think she is a whore. I am defendingn her a bit, as I don't see her as a whore at all. Her "knickers" as you call them have never come off.
You may be defending her. But she still looks like a whore with how you say shes always over you all the time. No married women should be doing that at all with another man. Plain and simple. A woman that loves her husband should only love him. She should be loyal to him as he should be the same amount of loyalty back. End of story.

Yes I agree, I wasn't trying to sound too bastardly. It always comes out that way but with what I see everyday of women in our area it is my only conclusion towards most women or perhaps most women my own age. They are so stupid most of the time.
Or maybe you just live in a bad area. Try moving first and see what the rest of the world is like. I'm sure theres a lot more stronger minded women out there for you to see.

[Miles]

That was a bit sexist in my opinion.

Since when is saying that you're insult to the male race...Sexist?

I'm saying that you're no man. I never said anything insulting about men...Just that you're a complete insult that the opposite sex.

There's also a difference between cheating on your partner and having your relationship fail. You're the one making her sound like trash, Kaoru. I'm just saying what impression you're giving me.
You're the one making her sound like a bad person. You seem to be building your own opinion of her husband through what she's telling you. I'm doing the same with her. That's all.

[Applejack]

I wouldn't care if she did. I don't care about anyone but myself and I think that men are superior to woman and that no woman is really worth that much of my time. I've never met a woman that I believed to be a strong woman....actually I did once and that is the only time I thought a woman was worth anything other than actually being needed to reproduce.

Of course a person's main female influence that makes him see woman as anything would be his mother and I have no respect for my mother. She is a pathetic weak excuse for a woman who doesn't even deserve to breathe the air, she is a waste of space. She can't even go shopping by herself and drags me everywhere with her, she couldnt even drive up the road to pick up my dads glasses by herself, she is worthless! I'm not going to always be around to tag along with her, so she had better get used to going places alone because my dad hates going everywhere with her too.

I'm not really trying to be sexist or anything but I have just learned this through time. I am sure that there are other strong women out there, I just haven't met them yet. That and most of the girls I see are being pushed around in carts and doing stupid things in Wal-Mart at all hours of the night. I can't stand stupidity which is why I prefer older women as they are out of that act stupid stage or perhaps many of these girls really just are complete idiots.




Based on the above it seems you're just using this mystery woman for your own amusement. Since you obviously don't care about her since she's not you I have to wonder why you're so concerned about it. It seems like you would just be the hit it and quit it type with that kind of mentality towards women, since all they're good for is reproducing.

Kaoru, you seem like misogynist. Which is fine, whatever. I mean, shit, I'm a misanthropist myself. But, and not to sound holier than thou or anything, it seems like your sole motivation in life is to be, like, some great physical being. The guy who goes around shitting on the little guy, the poster boy for survival of the fittest. But that kind of attitude isn't necessarily a good one to maintain.

Now, you're entitled to your opinions and I'm not going to call you an idiot or anything that has already been said. I'm sure there are others like you, who believe men to be the best. I'm guessing this stems from, if you're religious anyway, the fact that Adam came first and that, were it not for Eve, men would still be hanging in the garden. Of course, I could just be off base totally, but I'm talking through my ass here anyway.

I'm not going to say much else regarding your post, but based on newly presented evidence I have to question your motives in all this. Is she just a notch on your belt?

[Baka]

And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson,
Jesus loves you more than you will know.
God bless you, please Mrs. Robinson.
Heaven holds a place for those who pray,
Hey, hey, hey

lol might be before your time but makes me think about that The Graduate. anyways.....too late to say it's a bad idea to be doing what you're doing but you did it already. first off having an inter-office related relationship is really bad and most companies frown upon it so you might lose your job if they find out and what makes it worse is that she's married and you'll look like a real scumbag. second, she sounds like a nympho and i wouldn't take her word that she hasn't cheated before. third, realize that you're going to ruin this persons marriage if her husband finds out, ask yourself if you would really want to find out that your wife was cheating on you no matter what age the person is. fourth, if you pulled this shit with me i'd cut your penis off and jam it so far up your ass that you'd be shitting jizz.....but that's just me :D

[The Deity]

I always like seeing Droog show up in these threads. I didn't quote him because I really didn't have a response to any of his statements, but I must say, well said, sir.

Yes actually she has. She said something about going to dinner with me or something as he was going out with his friends one day. He isn't the jealous type she says and i'm guessing he goes out with men and women alike.

I stand corrected on a previous statement. My fault Holly.

Death comes to us all eventually, it is nothing to fear.


There is a difference between not being afraid of death and actively taking dangerous risks to get there.

I wouldn't care if she did. I don't care about anyone but myself and I think that men are superior to woman and that no woman is really worth that much of my time. I've never met a woman that I believed to be a strong woman....actually I did once and that is the only time I thought a woman was worth anything other than actually being needed to reproduce.

............................

And you kiss your mother with those lips?

Of course a person's main female influence that makes him see woman as anything would be his mother and I have no respect for my mother.

I guess you don't.

She is a pathetic weak excuse for a woman who doesn't even deserve to breathe the air, she is a waste of space. She can't even go shopping by herself and drags me everywhere with her, she couldnt even drive up the road to pick up my dads glasses by herself, she is worthless! I'm not going to always be around to tag along with her, so she had better get used to going places alone because my dad hates going everywhere with her too.


I imagine she more wants company than anything, though I suppose that would make her "weak" as well.

I'm not really trying to be sexist or anything but I have just learned this through time. I am sure that there are other strong women out there, I just haven't met them yet. That and most of the girls I see are being pushed around in carts and doing stupid things in Wal-Mart at all hours of the night. I can't stand stupidity which is why I prefer older women as they are out of that act stupid stage or perhaps many of these girls really just are complete idiots.

This is how you counter a women-are-a-waste-of-space belief?


Contradict yourself much! That's all you ever do!
That's one reason why Kimiko probly doesn't believe you...You step over yourself too much.
People tend to do that when they're lying.

To be fair, he regularly contradicts himself. Not that that makes him look better though.

Yes I agree, I wasn't trying to sound too bastardly. It always comes out that way but with what I see everyday of women in our area it is my only conclusion towards most women or perhaps most women my own age. They are so stupid most of the time.

That is a big step down from your previous statement.

I have never said anything that should make anyone think she is a whore. I am defendingn her a bit, as I don't see her as a whore at all. Her "knickers" as you call them have never come off.

You describe how she lustfully fools around with you in your bed, how she wants you to go with her to her homeland, how she complains about her husband not having sex, and how she wants to be with you.

That was a bit sexist in my opinion. I actually don't give them a bad name. Go find the guys that actually do lie to women and do anything to sleep with them or that rape and beat them. I am none of the above, I have been nothing but honest about everything. You should have learned by now that I don't care enough to lie about anything.

Saying "all men are liers, cheaters, and scum" is sexist. Singling one male out is not sexist.

If you want an example of sexist refer to this:

I wouldn't care if she did. I don't care about anyone but myself and I think that men are superior to woman and that no woman is really worth that much of my time. I've never met a woman that I believed to be a strong woman....actually I did once and that is the only time I thought a woman was worth anything other than actually being needed to reproduce.

You live at home with them yet you talk about them like that behind their backs. Especially the woman that gave you life....if anyone doesn't deserve what she gave for you. Its you...seriously. She has as much right to live as the next person.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Aren't you the one always bitching about your family on here about the "horrible" stuff they do to you? How is that not talking behind the backs of the people that gave you life? Its the same shit. You like to call him a hypocrite as much as you can, but look in the mirror.

You congratulated [Kimiko] and was happy cause of her being strong and all of that for pulling through her recent endeavors in the hospital yet you still call women weak. You make no sense

That's honestly a fair point.

And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson,
Jesus loves you more than you will know.
God bless you, please Mrs. Robinson.
Heaven holds a place for those who pray,
Hey, hey, hey

This is likely the best part of the thread.

first off having an inter-office related relationship is really bad and most companies frown upon it so you might lose your job if they find out and what makes it worse is that she's married and you'll look like a real scumbag.

It's Wal Mart, they don't give a shit.

[Tirk Renard]

..On second thought fuck her all ya want, maybe her husband will kick some sense into your ass.

[Dark Marmosett]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Aren't you the one always bitching about your family on here about the "horrible" stuff they do to you? How is that not talking behind the backs of the people that gave you life? Its the same shit. You like to call him a hypocrite as much as you can, but look in the mirror.
Point taken despite only having said something ever once myself. But there is a big difference between parents who aren't doing anything wrong to their family while there are parents that are doing something. Which his mother seems to have done nothing wrong at all either to him.

[Baka]

It's Wal Mart, they don't give a shit.

ah...that explains alot O.o

[Dark Luther]

Why doesn't she just divorce him...

[Miles]

Because she has no back-bone? o.o;;

I mean, I always considered cheating as a cowardly thing. Mainly because you want it all...You know, you want the security of having a loving husband/wife and a family and what-not...But you also want to have all the freedom you had before committing.

I guess that's more selfish than cowardly, actually. Ether way, it's moronic.





To be fair, he regularly contradicts himself. Not that that makes him look better though.



o.o;; I noticed. I had to read that like...Ten times x.X I thought you said "Rarely" not "regularly"
I was in the "I'm clearly losing my marbles then..." frame of mind >.>;; Than

---

Also, I would like to say that I know the world isn't exactly...Peaches and cream...(Not that I like peaches...) but just because people do bad things and stuff goes wrong...That doesn't mean that...Morals and right/wrong should be thrown out of the window.

Just because there are a few senseless morons out there...That doesn't mean that rules, real ones and moral ones, should be forgotten.
When you get married, you make a commitment. In the eyes of god, you're lady-friend has already broken most of the promises that she made to her husband.
Now, if he's as religious as she says...Finding out about what she's done already...Will break him apart.
And you're partly responsible.
Why?
Because you KNEW she was married.
You had every chance to stop it.

You're as much of a sleaze as she is, in my eyes anyways.

I like...Know...Mass amounts of insults, right? But I've seen what happens when a married woman goes too far...It's not pretty and there's a trail of destruction left behind.

[Altima]

This thread has seemd to have lost its purpose. Some just don't believe me at all and others translate what im saying as being bad when it isn't meant to be. I should have known that this would happen tho. I'll find the answer on my own as no one here can help me as they have neither the brains or experience to help me in this kind of situation.

I never called her dirty and I will never see her that way. I just don't want to see her get hurt in any way. Also if I thought that she was one of the idiots that didn't deserve my time and attention I would of never let it come this far, or I would have simply just never talked to her at all.

So now that this thread no longer has a real and true purpose it can just be closed

[Applejack]

Some just don't believe me at all and others translate what im saying as being bad when it isn't meant to be.

That's really more a fault of your own.


I'll find the answer on my own as no one here can help me as they have neither the brains or experience to help me in this kind of situation.

Hint: When asking for help, it's not a good idea to say that they don't have the intelligence to do so.






And you still never answered my questions.

[Miles]

experience to help me in this kind of situation.


And the ruddy hell does that tell you!?

We don't have the experience because we're smart enough to know that what you're doing is stupid.
You're the one with no brains, not us.

So basically...No one praised you for your bragging, so you're giving up.

You were never asking for help and this isn't the "help and advice" forum, which is where it should be going, if that's what you wanted.
You just wanted to brag about something stupid.

You seem to have found your answer. And actually, because you seem too dense to grasp what I was saying...
EVERYTHING you have said in this thread, every single thing, has built my impression of this...Person...Being dirty.
Your words made her out to be such a...Thing.

Like I said, it's no different than how you formed your opinion of her husband.
Yes...HER HUSBAND.

Pillock.

Whatever. You're in the wrong already...No matter which-way you turn.
I stand by; you both deserve each other. Because you really do. You both seem to have no respect for anyone around you and you don't seem to have the braincells needed to care about who gets hurt through your actions.
Her husband is better off without her...Because if it wasn't gonna be you...She'd find someone else to drape herself all over.

I hope he finds out just what she is. And I hope it's soon.

[Kaffee]

Pillock.



;) What's that mean sweetheart? Are cursing in Britanese? < (not a real word):D

[The Deity]

This thread has seemd to have lost its purpose. Some just don't believe me at all and others translate what im saying as being bad when it isn't meant to be.

People get to make their own determination of anything on their own. Though your framing of it all helped skew some negative feelings. But you can't expect that everyone would support you. I mean she is married.

I should have known that this would happen tho. I'll find the answer on my own as no one here can help me as they have neither the brains or experience to help me in this kind of situation.

I haven't outright criticize either of you this entire time. In fact at one point I claimed:


You're handling this with a much smarter mentality than you started the thread with. At least you've taken time to think about whatever it is you do.

That being sad, I also said this:

In all honesty I don't really care if you mess around with an older woman, but you're really setting yourself up to fail with this one. I'm sure what she's doing to you feels good, but seriously, is it worth it? You live with your parents, who don't like it; you work with her, which could end up bad if this falls through; and she's married, which could be even worse.

You have a right to do what you want. I think its not the best decision, and it is against my morals. That being said, you have a right to make your own morals. If this suits them, then that's your business. You just can't assume that people "won't take it wrong."

[Tirk Renard]

You're trying to make this right to yourself by attempting to make us seem wrong. You say that noone of this is important enough to give a care about, but you've gone on long enough with it that I find it hard to believe otherwise. I go with Holly, you are just upset because when you showed off you didn't get quite the response you were hoping for. Well, here, ill let you have it. Fuck her, do it long and hard, and I hope its good, I really really do. 'Cause I'll be seeing your ass in hell.