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Kaffee
07-13-2004, 08:11 PM
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What we want to see in ''Spider-Man 3'' -- Take a look at EW.com's dos and don'ts for the next Spidey sequel, and add your own


MASKED MAN ''Spider-Man 3'' needs to put the ''secret'' back in Peter Parker's secret identity


SPOILER ALERT: This story reveals some plot elements. ''Go get 'em, tiger!'' That goose bump-inducing line is where the box office wonder ''Spider-Man 2'' leaves us. But Peter Parker will spin his web again -- in a thousand days or so. Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, and director Sam Raimi have all signed on for ''Spider-Man 3,'' which is set for May 7, 2007. What superhero fan can wait that long? In the interests of instant gratification, we offer suggestions for the third Spidey movie (which, if current trends hold, will be the first film to gross $1 billion in a single hour):

DON'T kill Mary Jane. The movie story arc of Mary Jane Watson (Dunst) is much like that of another of Peter's comic book love interests: Gwen Stacy, who is murdered by the Green Goblin when he tosses her off a bridge. Since Dunst reportedly wants to leave the franchise after the third movie, Raimi & Co. might be tempted to do the same to Mary Jane, leaving Peter to trudge into the sunset while reflecting in a grim voiceover that everyone he ever loves will surely die. And that's a plotline only Debbie Downer would enjoy.

DO keep Peter's mask on. By the end of ''Spider-Man 2,'' our hero has removed his mask in front of Mary Jane, Harry Osborne, Norman Osborne, Dr. Otto Octavius, and a whole subway car full of random New Yorkers (fortunately, none of them whipped out a cameraphone). Secret identities are supposed to be secret, man. Since Pete's webbing is strong enough to stop a runaway subway train, maybe he should use it to keep that disguise stuck to his noggin.

DO use multiple bad guys. So James Franco's Harry Osborne found his dad's stash of ugly green outfits. Does that really mean we have to endure another two hours of a cackling dude encased in green plastic? In the comic books, Peter's ''Spidey 2'' professor, Dr. Curt Connors (Dylan Baker), drinks a potion that turns him into a malevolent giant lizard (oops). Go with that, but stick in some other supervillains too. The Sandman, a sulky, conflicted character who turns into a living pile of, er, sand, is one possibility. Other viable villains include the Scorpion (a fella with a long mechanical tail that works like Doc Ock's arms), Venom (a Spidey doppelgänger who wears a black version of Peter's costume), and Electro (a walking power plant). Sadly, one of Spidey's greatest foes, obese crimelord the Kingpin, is unavailable: Michael Clarke Duncan already played him in last year's weak ''Daredevil'' movie.

DO give us more of manic newspaperman J. Jonah Jameson -- and LESS of his boring son John Jameson. J.K. Simmons' bravura performance as the truculent, Spida-hata Daily Bugle publisher continues to delight (''I'll give you 50 bucks for it!''), but his astronaut son John Jameson (Daniel Gillies) is as personality-free as his pop is colorful. Spare us the sight of John moping over his canceled wedding, and give us more scenes of Jonah abusing Peter instead. And John should DEFINITELY not fulfill his comic book destiny by transforming into the ludicrous, minor-league bad guy Man-Wolf; this guy's only superpower is boring us to death.

What do you think should happen in ''Spider-Man 3''?


Post your response below.

Laggy
07-13-2004, 08:16 PM
i'd like to see cornege(SP?) and venom in it, and a little less of the love BS with parker and MJ...

and less of green goblen too... i mean. theres alot of kick ass bad guys in spider-man, why use the same one over and over?

Zelphiel
07-13-2004, 08:55 PM
one word... Venom

and it's Carnage laggy...

Laggy
07-13-2004, 08:58 PM
lol, ok thanks lmao

anyways yeah.. less of what i said, and more of alot of other things ^_^

Zelphiel
07-13-2004, 09:26 PM
as long as they don't make Mysterio the villain I'll be happy.

It's only logical (well... it's really not, because they set it up in S2 for Hobgoblin to be the baddy) to make Venom the villain in Spiderman 3. He's one of the most popular villains ever.

Laggy
07-13-2004, 09:29 PM
but in 2 they have it set up for the green goblen to return ... well his son as him, that is

The Wang Master
07-13-2004, 10:26 PM
chicks, tits, and clits

nightsavior
07-13-2004, 10:29 PM
it would be ok to have more then one villian but not too many. venom,carnage, and hob goblin would all be good choices for a trio of terror. however i think some spider man villians would just be a bit corny such as mysterio, the vulture,and sandman. a mistake i think alot of movie makers make is they like killing off the villians in just one sitting. this closes doors for later development. i don't mind the romance between mary j and peter because they're just as lovey dovey in the comic. also peter's idenity is exposed to certain people in the comic so that's actually accurate. i agree however it would be very VERY stupid to kill off mary jane watson. if they can't get the same great cast of actors for spider man 4 they should just wrap it up in 3 so the later spider man movies don't become as bad as the batman sequels.

Zelphiel
07-13-2004, 11:08 PM
they'd have to bring Venom into it first... seeing as how Carnage came about and all...

Chicken Little
07-14-2004, 12:12 AM
oh my gawd.

wait wait wait mysterio and the vulture are bad villains? So orchestrating the return of clones of peters parents to get him is a bad way to go about things, and yet you want a pest controller who gets his suit 'specially made' to look like a scorpion instead? Laughable.

Take what i wanted in the insidius 6. If you add Venom you get spin offs to the Fantastic 4 (movie in the making also) and S.H.I.E.L.D with Bryan Fury, also bring in Deadpool and instant cross to daredevil which would then initiate the kingpin also. Not to mention you have the whole Spidey & Hulk which can be wrappd up in 1 episode and Spidey & Cpt America in taking on the Red Skull and his goons which woul take 1 to set up and 1 to finish. Then you have the jackal and the clone fallout where you get introduced to Kane, PP and the real spiderman who dons the scarlet spider outfit Ben. AND in doing that peter could kill mj since he at least chases her around ny for a bit until she calls the new warriors and they scuffle, kane dies, PP loses his pwoers againb during the onslaught saga and then he dons the red and blue again while the scarlet spider goes back to being the scarlet spider.

Now onto Carnage, unless they plan on butchering him this is how it goes.

JJ jnr comes back from space with the symbiote attached, spidey kicks the crap outa him. The symbiote attaches to spidey for a bit until it goes to eddie brock after spidey used the vibrations of a bell to get rid of it. He then goes to mr Fantastic to get a sonic blaster and uses it on venom splitting it in 2 as he did so. Venom then went back to eddie and the second one went to an insane asylum and made carnage. THAT is carnages origin.

Zelphiel
07-14-2004, 12:15 AM
yeah, but it didn't happen that fast... there's stuff in between.

nightsavior
07-14-2004, 12:44 AM
well you know movies they try telling a 70 issue story arch in a comic book series with just one movie. green goblin didn't die that quickly either he was around a long time. the vulture,sandman,and mysterio are good villians i just think they'd look really odd in a movie unless their costumes were changed to make them look cooler and more intimidating.

Zelphiel
07-14-2004, 01:50 AM
I don't know... I just think that it would be a bit too much including Carnage in a movie. In movie terms I guess it could happen quickly, but there was a lot involved in the maximum carnage series.

nightsavior
07-14-2004, 02:10 AM
true and the maximum carnage series had alot more overtones of horror and disturbing psychological factors then the run of the mill super hero flick. i mean carnage is a psychotic killer. he is sick and all so very twisted. if they did maximum carnage accuratelly i don't think they could get away witha pg 13 rating. it'd be rated R and that just isn't the spirit of the spider man series. guess i thought about it prematurely before posting.

Zelphiel
07-14-2004, 03:11 AM
Venom was already quite established when that happened too. It wouldn't make sense, movie wise, to introduce Venom and halfway through the movie have him and Spiderman fighting together against Carnage with the slew of other heroes and villians that made appearances throughout the Maximum Carnage series.

nightsavior
07-14-2004, 10:50 PM
maximum carnage would most likely have to be a side trilogy that splits off from the main movies. perhaps in 3 movies they could get most of the story but they'd have to tone things down to make it less bloody because carnage really killed alot of ppl in a gruesome graphic fashion. also they'd have to get the same actors to play as peter, aunt may,jona jamison,and mary jane watson and from what mrs. durst said that's just not going to be able to happen because she's calling it quits after spider man 3.

Zelphiel
07-14-2004, 10:55 PM
I seriously doubt they'd do that. I'd much rather see a CG movie of the Maximum Carnage thing.

nightsavior
07-14-2004, 10:58 PM
or... a remade video game maximum carnage with todays technology using the same engine they did in spider man 2.

Zelphiel
07-14-2004, 11:00 PM
that would be cool. It would be even cooler if they made Carnage playable, and you went through the game as him.

nightsavior
07-14-2004, 11:05 PM
perhaps he could be an unlockable character. instead of the carnage part of the game being focused on saving lives there would be a body count meter to help you keep track of your kills. overtime carnage could learn more lethal combos as he takes on more powerful enemies such as the military and cia.

Zelphiel
07-14-2004, 11:08 PM
and when Venom gets loose... The final battle against Venom and Spiderman would be hard as hell.

Chicken Little
07-14-2004, 11:18 PM
yeah, but it didn't happen that fast... there's stuff in between.

thats in a nutshell of the main circumstances lol But with them having made a punisher, daredevil, spiderman, hulk, hellboy and in the making a F4 movie along with the X-men it is very possible for them to do crossovers.

Kaffee
07-16-2004, 04:16 AM
July 13, 2004: We've heard this one before, back in February: "An interesting rumor has surfaced that Eliza Dushku, who read for the Mary Jane part in Spidey, might return in the third film as The Black Cat. Just a rumor, folks, but a neat one at that." Thanks to Superherohype.com

Laggy
07-16-2004, 04:17 AM
lol black cat, that wouldnt be to bad lol

Kaffee
07-16-2004, 04:20 AM
May 18, 2004: AICN has landed a scoop about the third "Spider-Man" movie currently in development at Sony. Rumours emerged a few days ago that the hunter Kraven and The Chameleon would be the villains, this report not only refutes that but mentions the name of the villain most fans have been clamoring to see in a third film - be warned as there are MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD for the second film in this:

"I worked at Sony while they were putting together the script for #2 and fleshing out the basic story for #3 and I tell you, the last guy who left that stupid stuff about Kraven and The Chameleon was totally wrong. Spider Man 2 will leave off with a bit of a cliffhanger which will lead to #3, which will be friggin' AWESOME! Trust me, the villain WILL be VENOM. As you will see in #2 Mary Jane will marry J.J. Jameson's son who is an astronaut and planning to go up into space. This will pull Mary Jane away from Peter and in Peter's eyes keep her "safe". Well hold on, while in space J.J. Jameson's son will be infected by some weird alien organism. The alien will travel back to earth with him and J.J. Jameson's son will either become VENOM or Peter will be infected with VENOM and go on a rampage. Either way Spider Man will have to KILL J.J. Jameson's son/Mary Jane's husband in the end, which will bring Peter and Mary-Jane back together again. That's what I read as the summary of Spider Man #3, as you know they can change it, but from what I read, it will be Friggin' BAD ASS!!! You will be blown away, Sam really is the man when it comes to directing these things" . Thanks to DarkHorizons.com and Aint-it-Cool-News.

Chicken Little
07-16-2004, 05:13 AM
spidey fights jjs son upon arrival since it was a crash landing i think, then venom = eddie brock who was fired inthe first spidey.

Zelphiel
07-16-2004, 03:00 PM
hmm... I hope that stuff you posted is true Mike. I'd hate to have to kill the ass that wrote that if it isn't :chuckle

Kaffee
07-16-2004, 09:25 PM
hmm... I hope that stuff you posted is true Mike. I'd hate to have to kill the ass that wrote that if it isn't :chuckle

I'm trying to find something back this up. I found something about Sam Rami the director the other day, but got distracted and lost it. The article talked about how Sam had already started or was putting the finishing touches on Spidy 3, I'll find it to make sure this isn't bogus, which i don't think it is because evrybody's wnating Venom in the next one.

Zelphiel
07-17-2004, 12:54 AM
are there any polls on bigger entertainment sites asking who the next villain should be?

Kaffee
08-19-2006, 01:28 AM
Courtesy of Wikipedia.com. Lots of screens from the movie and spoilers I'm afraid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderman_3