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Dark Luther
05-16-2007, 05:37 PM
Simple - what weapon type, or specific weapon have you always wanted to learn, or get really good at for that matter...

Could be for self defense, could be for show, or it could just be for personal wish as in hobby or as an asthetic...

Nimrod
05-16-2007, 05:48 PM
Double sided lightsaber. :D

I've always wanted to master myself in swordsmanship. It's always fascinated me.

Snips
05-16-2007, 06:09 PM
Actually, I'd like to try something unorthodox that would catch most people off guard.

2 spears, one in each hand.

I understand the theory behind how I fould effectively do this, but of course, actual practice is another matter altogether....

Also, like Nimrod said, double bladed sword would be cool too (examples besides Darth Maul include Zidane's double sided "Thief swords" in Final Fantasy 9, and Yuan's weapon in Tales of Symphonia. Someone once told me the correct term for these weapons is "swallowtail" though I have not confirmed it, myself)

Kurbee
05-16-2007, 07:13 PM
Broadswords. Nuff' Said.

Dark Luther
05-16-2007, 07:43 PM
Actually, I'd like to try something unorthodox that would catch most people off guard.

2 spears, one in each hand.

I understand the theory behind how I fould effectively do this, but of course, actual practice is another matter altogether....

Also, like Nimrod said, double bladed sword would be cool too (examples besides Darth Maul include Zidane's double sided "Thief swords" in Final Fantasy 9, and Yuan's weapon in Tales of Symphonia. Someone once told me the correct term for these weapons is "swallowtail" though I have not confirmed it, myself)

Dude, your really going to have to explain to me that one - cause of all the time I've studied weapons - I have never heard of a theory behind the actual use of duel spears...

Are you sure you meant spears and not something smaller - like Javelins or Pilum...?

Anyway - I'm quite curious, so tell me how one could possibly use two of them ( it's difficult enough to think of how to use two javelins or such - let alone spears )...

[PhiberOpticks]
05-16-2007, 07:52 PM
I'd have to say katana. I find the art of the samurai intriguing.

Snips
05-16-2007, 07:58 PM
Dude, your really going to have to explain to me that one - cause of all the time I've studied weapons - I have never heard of a theory behind the actual use of duel spears...

Are you sure you meant spears and not something smaller - like Javelins or Pilum...?

Anyway - I'm quite curious, so tell me how one could possibly use two of them ( it's difficult enough to think of how to use two javelins or such - let alone spears )...

Well, it's a little hard to explain entirely verbaly, I can draw up some low-quality diagrams if you like, though. Basically, above all else, it takes a lot of upper body strength (which I'm develloping) and good coordination and reflexes.

Nickelback
05-16-2007, 08:11 PM
I am already learning how to use a Katana, more as a relaxing art in wielding a weapon, rather than need of self defense, although given recent events, it is useful.

I would like to, although it would be kinda crazy, learn to use a halberd.

Pinkie Pie
05-16-2007, 08:18 PM
I already have basic training in them, but I'd wouldn't mind the opportunity to further my training in the use of kogatana. It was when I was still learning martial arts, I was taught proper usage of the use of one, as well as a kata for dual-wielding them.

Though I don't claim to know much about them, they're small-bladed weapons, like knives, sharpened on one side, and meant to be easily concealable. I'm sure that Luther could say more about them.

Snips
05-16-2007, 09:04 PM
I would like to, although it would be kinda crazy, learn to use a halberd.

Hell yeah, those too :D

And yikes, I've never even heard of kogatana, Tessa, or maybe I did and forgot, but more likely not. They sound kinda cool, you say you were taught in martial arts? I guess I picked the wrong one to take lessons in *jiu-jitsu-throws self out the window in fusrtration 0_o*

Zelphiel
05-16-2007, 11:29 PM
for martial arts weapons I'd like to be better with a Katana.

as for something practical... I'd like to be a lot more accurate at distance shooting.

Dark Luther
05-17-2007, 04:24 AM
I already have basic training in them, but I'd wouldn't mind the opportunity to further my training in the use of kogatana. It was when I was still learning martial arts, I was taught proper usage of the use of one, as well as a kata for dual-wielding them.

Though I don't claim to know much about them, they're small-bladed weapons, like knives, sharpened on one side, and meant to be easily concealable. I'm sure that Luther could say more about them.

Well - not too much really - I'm quite surprised though as that's quite an interesting choice, and a very exotic weapon...

I had to look it up to remember what it was...heh

Yeah, pretty much easily hidden knives - another note is that they were commonly built into a weapon, such as a wooden sheath - where they would fit so as one couldn't see until you pull them out...( commonly used as a quick throwing weapon ).
Actually - one can find them in both Japan and in German weapons..., I myself used it with my character in hotaru's RP game...


Incredibly interesting choice though Hotaru,
and very applicable to modern day...
If your ever by Florida, be sure to drop a line - I'll refer you to probably the best guy for that - hoping he's still alive as he's getting on years...



Anyway - Walnut..., you've got to explain it to me because I'm at a loss as to how one could use two spears...
Physical strength aside, and coordination aside - I can't simply imagine it a person gaining enough of either to even use them - let alone use a strategy with them...
I've got friends who have either one or the other in spades - and they still would never use two...

Well, I don't want to sound skeptical - as I've been surprised before, but I really am curious as to the strategy and form you mentioned...

Nimrod
05-17-2007, 11:00 AM
Yeah, katanas would be my second choice hands down. Maybe even be used as a backup after I was mastered in swordsmanship.

Dark Marmosett
05-17-2007, 11:49 AM
Definitely better use of a rifle. I have hard time aiming them correctly to hit where I want to. Shotguns are easier cause well its a shotgun. As for close combat I'd like to know how to fight with swords better. Any kind would be good enough for me really.

Dark Luther
05-18-2007, 01:17 AM
I really see Gunny go for a cut and thrust for some reason...

Anyway - Walnut - I'm gonna keep pestering you for a responce...

Snips
05-18-2007, 01:20 PM
Okay, allow me to draw up some diagrams in paint. This might take 10-15 mins.

The person using them will be blue, one spear will be red, and the other will be green, for simplicity. Also, note how this is just something someone I know suggested, I think it might be feasable but is definately unorthodox.

Okay, here's my interpretation of some of the things this friend said. I might have misunderstood or forgotten some of it (Luther, I'm sure you could poke holes in every part of this) so I'd have to confer with this friend to see how right this is, but here goes.

Edit: Whoops, upload didn't work, the file is 500 pixels too large, and photobucket would just shrink it. I'll need to cut this into sections, if you're still interested

Dark Luther
05-18-2007, 04:04 PM
Yeah, sure - you could just email it to me - I know how to decrease it without shrinking it, and keeping relatively good resolution...

Also - don't worry about holes and such - that's really not why I'm interested.
Partly it's the simple fact that I really can't imagine it - and the curiousity really pushes me to wonder and ask...
That aside - if it's a concept or theory, it's just that - a concept or theory - and shouldn't be expected to be perfect.
But if it has it's merits - I'm more than willing to look at it, as even the worst of ideas have the capacity to have original concepts that work - specially the crazy ones...

There's a few crazy ones I should probably mention later..., and there's as many holes as well as inventive ideas in all of them...

Elisa Maza
05-18-2007, 04:19 PM
Hm.. you know.. I wouldn't mind learning how to use a Lucerne Hammer. More specifically a heavy head lucerne hammer.

Not only are there very few noteworthy females in history who've been known to wield heavy weapons such as those, but the weapon itself seems like something I could eventually master.

I'd certainly dedicate the time to do so, and I'm used to awkwardly heavy weapons due to my various weighted kusari-gama and moderately heavy polearm training. (and the lucerne hammer is technically in the "polearm" class)

Dark Luther
05-18-2007, 04:51 PM
It's too bad your back is still out - that's actually something some of the guys I told you about wanted to go back into...

So far from what I've seen - the weapon is used in a similar fashion to a Naginata and an Axe... ( depending on the role ).

In actual combat against someone in armor - the hook would be used to pull the armor from the edges and create an opening - then come down and puncture with the needle point.

Meanwhile - it's head would be used against a shielded or defending opponent much like an axe -
strike forward ( usually with the top head instead of the blade ) into the opponent causing a guard position, then using the beard or point ( depends on the defense ) to pull down the shield, armor, weapon - then thrust forward with the bludgeon and ride up to come down or around to pierce or tear with the point.

Of course - the exact way it's used depends on the user -
I've seen three differant people of differant sizes use it in varied forms following the basic practice - all depending on their strengths and their previous weapons of preference...

One uses immense strength to use it as a great hammer and then use the shock to ride up causing a very high guard, and use it as such...
Another is a rapier/spear user and uses several thrusts to literally control the opponent's movement and war him down, then do the tear away at a particular point...
When I used it - I used what I knew of the naginata and would focus on coming in from a 45 angle - striking the corner of the defence and riding up in another 45 to break the balance - using the oppoening to feint or actually strike vulnerable areas instead of the main body, then if successful or not - focus on a trip using the sides.


In truth - though quite varied - one would not see much differance...

( note that the top was a dulled point -
a sharp point can also be used and was done differantly -
usually imbedding it into the shield and using the weight to drag them down...)

Snips
05-18-2007, 05:45 PM
Yeah, okay, I'll send it to you, Luther. Don't mind the crappy MS Paint-done diagrams >_<

Grave Wisdom
05-19-2007, 11:31 PM
I've always wanted some sword-training personally, as stereotypical as that may be. There's many reasons for this interest.

Dark Luther
05-20-2007, 12:41 AM
Well, though many are skeptical when I tell them - I've always believed sword work, along with any other weapon, can always improve you hand to hand - and in fact many other unrelated activities...


And Walnut, I'm still waiting for you to send it to me...

Kaffee
05-20-2007, 01:13 AM
Duel Axes, yeah, that would be awesome. Throw in a little Martial Arts to keep me balanced and deadly. ;)