George W.

[Vincent The Dark]

Being a liberal, i dont like bush. I dont feel that he is not educated well enough to be world leader, and e feel he has a lack of understanding of other world cultures as well as compassion.maybe im wrong. i would like to discuss this

[Vincent The Dark]

i have a few typos in that last post.........ignore em you know what i mean

[Zelphiel]

meh... I hate all politicians.

sure there are good things that they do, but it goes along with an equal number of hardcore f*uckups.

[Laggy]

i dont think he lacks anything, he maybe has done some things that other people wouldnt, but that doesnt mean he's dumb... i think he has done his juts the way he thinksis right, and not the way others might think is right, and i respect that, i think a prez should do everything they know as right, even if it be wrong

[Vincent The Dark]

i agree mog. but encorperate the fact that he has hundreds of advisors. its not like hes only acting on his beliefs...................avot or..how true.

[Laggy]

i think that he did act on his own, i think there were prolly alot of people tellin him no...i also think that he did alot of things just to do what his dad couldnt.

and theres a Edit button to the right of every post you make, use it when you make typos dont D-post every time.

[Vincent The Dark]

yeah sure some said no, but a great deall most likely agreed with him. Most presidents dont go against the majority of their advisors................oh i dont think hes dumb, i just dont think he aquires the type of knowledge it takes to run a country....................... and i dont really care very much if i make typos, so long as you can understand what i write

[Laggy]

i've been around here a long time, everyone knows how to read a good typo by now, cause i make a many!

yea but all im saying is that he did alot of things that his dad couldnt, but wanted to do.. and this alone is most likly why he became prez...

and no one man, IMO can or should run a country..and this one, its to damn big, we should have a king and queen and a prez for this place :chuckle

[Vincent The Dark]

hahahahaha i know. i can see youre point. like what stuff his dad couldnt. here or internationally?

[Laggy]

the war for one, his dad started that shiz..

[Vincent The Dark]

im getting bored so im getting off ef....................ill have to check youre answer later mog

[Laggy]

:lancy...i already did,...lol

[Lancet Jades]

I'm a republican, and i do like Bush, although i think there have been plenty of better presidents. He isnt the best we could probly do, but then again, thats the case with everything these days.

And, in today's world, face it: you need to have a strong presence. Terroists, people like Saddam, wont give in unless we take the fight to them and show em not to mess with us. If we backed down and just left them alone, they won't stop. Especially the terrorists: for them, its a holy war. Us backing down won't help. It'll just show we're too weak to carry on a fight. They'll then use further terror to push us even further and get their way.

As for people like Saddam, face it: he was an evil tyrant who tortured, poisoned and murdered his own people. I agree with liberals that we shouldnt've gone into Iraq for WMds. We should've gone in to liberate a suffering people. People can argue that it wasn't our place, but if we're so powerful, is it right to just ignore other peoples because we don't want to bother?

[Laggy]

agreed

BUT on the last thing... i dont see what right we have going to other places, what if they did it to us, we'd kill them if they tried

so they do things in there home land and we kill em for it, they try anything here..we kill em for it, it isnt our place IMO... who gave us all rights to rule over the world?...

[Lancet Jades]

Like i said, some places in thr world are ****holes, no matter how you look at it. Living in Iraq under Saddam is an example of something like that. Although gonig in and removing him is considered a breach of our authority or whatever, would it make us any better to have stayed out and let the people continue to suffer under him? Just closing our eyes to things around the world, like so many other 1st world countries do, isn't right. Of course, its all opinion. No one can state whats right and wrong as fact.

[Vincent The Dark]

okay, so youre saying, lancet, that we need to go into pakistan , saudia arabia, sudan,venezuala, chile,cuba, mayanmar and hundreds of other people b/c they have evil people running them torturing and murdering. to me thats a good reason but why iraq. why not north korea???it supports terror on a grandious scale. we arent going to liberate every oppressed person , so why iraq?

[Vincent The Dark]

places, not people srry

[Zelphiel]

don't double post again vince. this is the only warning you'll get.


why not north korea???

do you really want to start WW3 so soon? North Korea is a country run by a lunatic that has nuclear capabilities, and he won't refrain from using them on us or anyone that helps us. the only way anything could be done with that country is with total backing from the UN. (which is what should have happened with Iraq, but like fools we did it anyway)

the only country that has recently made any headway with North Korea is China, which is a country (especially when they share a border with you) is a country that gets whatever it wants from almost anyone.

[Lancet Jades]

Well, even if it really possible to liberate ALL of them, thats no reason to not save ANY of them. Just because you cant save everyone is no reason to not try and save someone.

[Zelphiel]

I think they should save themselves.

[Lancet Jades]

Yeah, but it isnt that easy. Of course, it isnt for us either. What we should do is go in and help them fight their battle, then give them power.

[Laggy]

so, Lades.. you think its right that so many US folk be dieing over in other places fighting a war that isnt ours?

for what the USA has done for me, i wouldnt fight a war if it was in our land, let alone someone elses... i mean, im sorry! but we have better ways to die then to go intop war for somthing that doesnt even help the US.

[Jeff]

I think most everyone here knows my opinion of George W. Bush. And, speaking from the point that he's not educated enough, the man graduated from Yale. He wasn't the valedictorian of his class of course, but he did go to Yale, and you have to be pretty smart to do that. President Clinton and President Bush Sr. went to Yale, along with Presidential hopeful John Kerry.

BTW, Bush will be here the Friday after next. I'll be sure to get a picture to post for you guys :D

[Zelphiel]

print the boycott france thing in your sig and get his autograph on it... (can't usually get that close, but it would be kinda cool)

[Lancet Jades]

Yeah, lathan has a point. It'd be funny :D

[Chicken Little]

by the rules of the UN every nation should have went to war against the USA.
The reasons for you going there were bull****.
The reasons for staying was because of initial presence.
The reasons for leaving was cowardice.

Going after Afghanistan for the terroists since each terrorist that harmed the US bar 1 was afghani was justified in a way. Going after Iraq is taking something too far just because you could.

Have you ever heard that a strong man doesnt flaunt his power? Is the USA above world laws? Is the USA justified because yeah they overthrew a dictator WOOOHOO joy fun but at what cost? You invade and conquer, you meet resistance of the general Iraqi populace and you realise that you cant set up and quell the voiolence. So what do you do, hand over power and hitail it to the nearest plane back home. Brave brave men right there.

You continue to hold the worlds largest amount of missles while preaching to other nations to cut back. Hypocracy? No of course not, ITS THE USA!!!

You continue to invade whenever you feel threatened and whenever you do you take out neighbouring countries. War mongerers? NO ITS THE USA!!!

during the cold war and afterwards Russia and the US bttled each other diplomatically for power in the African nations, what happened of course you fuelled the war physically. Yet your the victim and you cry for vengeance after infliciting so much harm over so many years.

I have yet to see any american town be annihilated by a hydrogen bomb then those same people glorified then feel victimised. Perhaps if you didnt repeat the mistakes of the past then you wont repeat them.

And yes I am adamant about that, your nation should be ashamed of what you have become and i would rather be squashed by that bomb then put up with it.