Religion

[Night]

What do you feel about the role of religious laws in an individuals life? I feel that religion are the laws inside a man, while government is the laws outside him.

[Lancet Jades]

What choice should a man make, though, should his government's laws violate or otherwise contradict his religious laws?

[[PhiberOpticks]]

I think religion is something used to teach certain ethics. But basically, I agree with your stance.

[Night]

What choice should a man make, though, should his government's laws violate or otherwise contradict his religious laws?
What the fuck is this? 21 questions??!

But really, that question has been debated over and over. It has been said that a father's rights are above those of the law, but who is actually right is always debatable.

[The Deity]

I've said it time and time again. Religion will affect your opinions and your opinions affect your political beliefs.

What the fuck is this? 21 questions??!

But really, that question has been debated over and over. It has been said that a father's rights are above those of the law, but who is actually right is always debatable.

You sound like you don't want a debate after making this thread...

[Lancet Jades]

What the fuck is this? 21 questions??!

But really, that question has been debated over and over. It has been said that a father's rights are above those of the law, but who is actually right is always debatable.
That question seems to be at the heart of this debate, rather.

[Mr Bad Man]

What the fuck is this? 21 questions??!

But really, that question has been debated over and over. It has been said that a father's rights are above those of the law, but who is actually right is always debatable.
It's 20 Q

[Lancet Jades]

It's 20 Q
Warned for spam. Don't post in this forum unless you actually have something to add to the discussion.

[Rainbow Dash]

Even if religon affects your opinions, it is your choice whether or not to try to force them on other people. In a government, you ARE governing people other than yourself, after all. I still believe, either way, that any legislation needs to have GOOD resaons aside from religon. If the bible says "Thou shalt not kill" and you feel that is a good law to add to the government, go ahead, since it is something that causes suffering to many other people.

Lades, this isn't the DT, I wasnt aware that there was a ZT no-spam policy here as well.

[Zelphiel]

there isn't that I'm aware of either. I can't remember Idgaf ever wanting to put his forum on ZT. :hmm

but still... spam is very out of place in this particular forum.



anyway... considering a good portion of the laws of most countries have at least some religious basis there's no way to escape it at all so there's no point in trying. it's not like that's a bad thing though... laws against murder and stealing make a lot of sense.

[Lancet Jades]

Even if religon affects your opinions, it is your choice whether or not to try to force them on other people. In a government, you ARE governing people other than yourself, after all. I still believe, either way, that any legislation needs to have GOOD resaons aside from religon. If the bible says "Thou shalt not kill" and you feel that is a good law to add to the government, go ahead, since it is something that causes suffering to many other people.

Lades, this isn't the DT, I wasnt aware that there was a ZT no-spam policy here as well.
There isn't a ZT spamming policy in here, but what he posted was nothing but spam, ZT or not. This is still a place for discussion and debate, not spam.

[idgaf rpgfan]

there isn't that I'm aware of either. I can't remember Idgaf ever wanting to put his forum on ZT. :hmm

but still... spam is very out of place in this particular forum.
Haven't put it on ZT


anyway... considering a good portion of the laws of most countries have at least some religious basis there's no way to escape it at all so there's no point in trying. it's not like that's a bad thing though... laws against murder and stealing make a lot of sense.
IMO that's half the reason for religion, creating rules, laws or guidelines on proper conduct, without having to explain the reasoning behind the rule (and most have good reasons) and creating a "punishment" that will prevent people from breaking the rules (ie: going to hell).
There isn't a ZT spamming policy in here, but what he posted was nothing but spam, ZT or not. This is still a place for discussion and debate, not spam.
^What he said^

[Dark Marmosett]

What I think is some crazy shit. Some laws that religions have is crazy and would completely turn me away from that religion. Like how you can't eat meat on fridays for catholics during lent. What else can you eat that doesn't consist of some meat form. Except pizza and pasta..but usually that has meat in it...but by the time you think of it you have already eaten a bolonga sandwich or something and then are like oh shit. Anyway also other parts of other religions where you aren't allowed to do certain things is also redicuolous. I don't see how they survive. Liek johovah witnesses. 132 people I think are destined to go afterlife while the rest aren't going..then whats the whole point in recruiting them all. =/

[Night]

Its more than 132, and catholics choose what to give up for lent.

Lades and Deity, I didn't mean for this to be a debate, but any time somebody disagrees in an opinionated thread like this one is gonna start. I'm not in it though.

[Dark Marmosett]

But beside having to give something up for lent..there is no meat on fridays during it.

[Night]

Giving up meat for a couple fridays is not a reason to discredit a religion as a whole

[Dark Marmosett]

But still. Its a stupid thing to go by. Becaus ehtey say you can eat fish on fridays during lent. But also fish is counted as a meat as well. So that would also be going against that rule. =/

[The Deity]

But still. Its a stupid thing to go by. Becaus ehtey say you can eat fish on fridays during lent. But also fish is counted as a meat as well. So that would also be going against that rule. =/

If those are the only qualms you can get about a religion, that's downright petty.

[Night]

I agree Deity.

[[PhiberOpticks]]

Giving up meat for a couple fridays is not a reason to discredit a religion as a whole

Yeah, what he said.

But still. Its a stupid thing to go by. Becaus ehtey say you can eat fish on fridays during lent. But also fish is counted as a meat as well. So that would also be going against that rule. =/

I'm holding back the laughter. No, technically fish is not considered meat.

meat (mhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gift)

The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.

I wouldn't really try and argue against Catholicism. They've have 2000 years to prepare their argument XD

[The Deity]

meat (mt)

The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.

You realize that especially coninsiding with opposed doesn't exclude fish and poultry from being meat. It means that they're just not the usual term reffered to by "meat"

[Night]

It does, exclusively say "As opposed to". However the word "especially" throws it off, so its debatable, but unimportant, we've already resolved taht it is possible to survive without eating meat (fish excluded or included) for one day a week, and rules are a part of religion, there's probably a reason for them.