Yeshua or Jesus?

[Lancet Jades]

http://www.thenazareneway.com/yeshua_jesus_real_name.htm

Pretty interesting, I thought. It also brings to mind a particular event at the end of Xenosaga 2 >.>

[cid]

Tis interesting...

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

Pretty interesting, I thought. It also brings to mind a particular event at the end of Xenosaga 2 >.>You mean you didn't know it the first time through? I had to watch it again because I was laughing so hard the first time to know what the hell happened after that.

[Lancet Jades]

You mean you didn't know it the first time through? I had to watch it again because I was laughing so hard the first time to know what the hell happened after that.
I'd heard sometime in the past claims about the name and what it meant (I think it was in a discussion thread at GW in the Xeno forum, actually), but I hadnt thought much of it till this, really. I WAS aware of it to an extent, though.

[Chicken Little]

http://www.thenazareneway.com/yeshua_jesus_real_name.htm

Pretty interesting, I thought. It also brings to mind a particular event at the end of Xenosaga 2 >.>

In Hebrew Yeshua means Salvation while the name Jesus has no intrinsic meaning in English whatsoever.

try telling that to the milliions of christians and catholics around the world, i do believe you'll end up getting the same responses i get when i piss ppl off :P

[The Deity]

Yeah...they even reffer to him as Yeshua in the Passion of the Christ.

[Lancet Jades]

In Hebrew Yeshua means Salvation while the name Jesus has no intrinsic meaning in English whatsoever.

try telling that to the milliions of christians and catholics around the world, i do believe you'll end up getting the same responses i get when i piss ppl off :P
Main Entry: in·trin·sic
Pronunciation: in-'trin-zik, -'trin(t)-sik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French intrinsèque internal, from Late Latin intrinsecus, from Latin, adverb, inwardly; akin to Latin intra within -- more at INTRA-
1 a : belonging to the essential nature or constitution of a thing <the intrinsic worth of a gem> <the intrinsic brightness of a star> b : being or relating to a semiconductor in which the concentration of charge carriers is characteristic of the material itself instead of the content of any impurities it contains
2 a : originating or due to causes within a body, organ, or part <an intrinsic metabolic disease> b : originating and included wholly within an organ or part <intrinsic muscles> -- compare EXTRINSIC 1b
- in·trin·si·cal·ly /-zi-k(&-)lE, -si-/ adverb

Yeshua meant salvation even before Christ, but Jesus only has value to so many people nowadays because they attribute it to Him, thus only Yeshua has INTRINSIC meaning that relates it to Christ :P

[Chicken Little]

Main Entry: in·trin·sic
Pronunciation: in-'trin-zik, -'trin(t)-sik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French intrinsèque internal, from Late Latin intrinsecus, from Latin, adverb, inwardly; akin to Latin intra within -- more at INTRA-
1 a : belonging to the essential nature or constitution of a thing <the intrinsic worth of a gem> <the intrinsic brightness of a star> b : being or relating to a semiconductor in which the concentration of charge carriers is characteristic of the material itself instead of the content of any impurities it contains
2 a : originating or due to causes within a body, organ, or part <an intrinsic metabolic disease> b : originating and included wholly within an organ or part <intrinsic muscles> -- compare EXTRINSIC 1b
- in·trin·si·cal·ly /-zi-k(&-)lE, -si-/ adverb

Yeshua meant salvation even before Christ, but Jesus only has value to so many people nowadays because they attribute it to Him, thus only Yeshua has INTRINSIC meaning that relates it to Christ :P

but take into account the whineyness of religious groups, Yeshua may have the actual meaning behind the name but its not represented as much since its been distorted to where Jebus is the representation. Thus any person who most likely would debate that fact would be met with harsh criticisms due to that representation.

Intrinsic value = sweet didly squat

[Lancet Jades]

but take into account the whineyness of religious groups, Yeshua may have the actual meaning behind the name but its not represented as much since its been distorted to where Jebus is the representation. Thus any person who most likely would debate that fact would be met with harsh criticisms due to that representation.

Intrinsic value = sweet didly squat
Intrinsic value may mean sweet diddly squat, but its nonetheless what it was talking about, and thus you're WRONG.

Whats that? Yesh, Flypoo is WRONG.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

:P

[Chicken Little]

Intrinsic value may mean sweet diddly squat, but its nonetheless what it was talking about, and thus you're WRONG.

Whats that? Yesh, Flypoo is WRONG.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

:P

well when you do think about it how many names which originated from that era and even beyond didnt have any meaning behind them? So its not really a startling revelation that people changed it and then adopted the same reason and the masses flocked.

[Lancet Jades]

well when you do think about it how many names which originated from that era and even beyond didnt have any meaning behind them? So its not really a startling revelation that people changed it and then adopted the same reason and the masses flocked.
But it still stands that Yeshua has intrinsic value in Hebrew, but Jesus has no such intrinsic value in Latin, or English, or any other such languages (even Hebrew).

Intrinsic value in this case is what value the word had BEFORE Christ was given the name. Jesus had no such value until Christ was given that name by our language or whatever. Face it, Fly, I win :P

[Chicken Little]

But it still stands that Yeshua has intrinsic value in Hebrew, but Jesus has no such intrinsic value in Latin, or English, or any other such languages (even Hebrew).

Intrinsic value in this case is what value the word had BEFORE Christ was given the name. Jesus had no such value until Christ was given that name by our language or whatever. Face it, Fly, I win :P

i never doubted that, i said that more often then not youd be bitchslapped for exoressing such stuff in a christian comunity since theyre dumbfucks...i mean since theyve been brought up on the Jebus aspect and not Yeshua.

[Lancet Jades]

i never doubted that, i said that more often then not youd be bitchslapped for exoressing such stuff in a christian comunity since theyre dumbfucks...i mean since theyve been brought up on the Jebus aspect and not Yeshua.
But you started your argument on the grounds of INTRINSIC value, so I still pwned you :P