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Lancet Jades
05-28-2004, 08:20 PM
'Plagiarist' to sue university


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40203000/jpg/_40203253_keyboard203.jpg The student claims the university was negligent

A student who admits down-loading material from the internet for his degree plans to sue his university for negligence.

Michael Gunn claims his university should have warned him his actions were against the regulations.

The Times Higher Education Supplement reports that he was told on the eve of his final exams that he would get no marks for his course work.

The University of Kent at Canterbury says students are warned about plagiarism.

Michael Gunn, a 21-year-old English student, told the Times Higher: "I hold my hands up. I did plagiarise. I never dreamt it was a problem.

"I can see there is evidence I have gone against the rules, but they have taken all my money for three years and pulled me up the day before I finished.

"If they had pulled me up with my first essay at the beginning and warned me of the problems and consequences, it would be fair enough.

"But all my essays were handed back with good marks and no one spotted it."

'Clear guidelines'

David Nightingale, the deputy vice-chancellor of Kent University said he would not comment on individual cases because the external examiners' meeting for the School of English would take place next week, when exam entries would be considered.

But he said: "I would stress that throughout their time at Kent, all students are given clear guidelines as well as practical advice and support as to what constitutes plagiarism. These spell it out that it is not acceptable under any circumstances.

"For example, in the School of English this information is provided in the faculty handbook and in the department's own handbook, both of which are issued to all students.

"All students are also encouraged to attend the regular workshops on study-skills run by the university which also provides on-line advice." The University is running a pilot scheme which uses plagiarism detection software to analyse student work. This will be used across the university this summer.

Zelphiel
05-29-2004, 01:03 AM
he's an idiot....

though, if they don't tell you that you can't do it they've got it comming.

idgaf rpgfan
05-29-2004, 01:06 AM
I don't know, ignorance is not always a good enough defence

Zelphiel
05-29-2004, 01:13 AM
I didn't think that ignorance could be a defense in court...

Lancet Jades
05-29-2004, 01:31 AM
Ignorance is not a defense, but that only works if its an official law....

idgaf rpgfan
05-29-2004, 01:33 AM
What it will come down to is whether or not the school can prove that it has warned against plagiarism

Lancet Jades
05-29-2004, 01:36 AM
If the school has the warning in its handbook or whatever, then he's got no case...

Laggy
05-29-2004, 01:42 AM
meh...it doesnt matter to me really...everyones trying to make money off of BS IMO..this guy sues that guy for this, and that guy sues this guy for sueing him..meh meh meh ...the world is getting boring to me...teh USA atleast...let some one try to sue me for anything...if they do win..or if they dont win...they will live in hell after cause ill stolk them SOB's...

idgaf rpgfan
05-29-2004, 01:46 AM
If the school has the warning in its handbook or whatever, then he's got no case...
If he has a very good laywer, he probably has a case against the school, the teachers, the administration, the board, the contractor that built the school and you, cuz you read and posted your opinion on his case.

Lancet Jades
05-29-2004, 02:35 AM
Yeah, but regardless of having a good lawyer, if its in the handbook, then he loses. No case. Its his responsibility to read it, and if he doesnt, than ignorance isnt a defense.

Hector
05-29-2004, 07:03 PM
hes a dumbass, i mean, they tell us not to^plagarize and were in grade 8. a 21 year old should know

idgaf rpgfan
05-29-2004, 08:01 PM
I agree with you all but unfortunately America is the land of lawsuits, A good laywer is better than any skill or ability you can have.

Lancet Jades
05-29-2004, 10:32 PM
But still, there are some things even a good lawyer cant do.

Zelphiel
05-29-2004, 11:48 PM
I agree with you all but unfortunately America is the land of lawsuits, A good laywer is better than any skill or ability you can have.


or being a lawyer yourself... I wouldn't mind knowing every loophole in the law. :D :devil

idgaf rpgfan
05-29-2004, 11:53 PM
That would be a skill to have

Lancet Jades
05-30-2004, 12:19 AM
That's the one reason i'm interested in law. Knowing it prevents you from being exploited.

Zelphiel
05-30-2004, 12:20 AM
and knowing it lets you exploit it.

Lancet Jades
05-30-2004, 12:23 AM
Exactly ^_^

Explotation is fun, as long as i'm not the one being exploited.

Chaos Theory
05-30-2004, 03:34 AM
what a fool

Link
05-30-2004, 08:16 PM
Wow. What kind of college student doesnt know thats illegal? But then again what kind of school wouldnt notify that?