superman complex.

[nightsavior]

hey remember when we all played super heroes as kids? there'd always be that one kid that said "i'm superman! i'm better then all of you and i'm invincible!" yeah back in the day you couldn't really argue with that logic. sure the flash is fast. and the hulk he's strong. wonderwoman can fly because she has her invisible jet(dc later decided she could fly by herself on account the invisible jet idea was stupid) but superman he has all these different powers. he can fly,he's faster then a speeding bullet, and he is strong too. well later after you've grown up and have gotten a job you come across this elite cat. he speaks eloquently. he dresses in a suit. by social standards he's smart and successful. at first you think he's ok. well you talk with him alittle more. you then realize he thinks he is always right. that he calls the shots. if you argue with this guy whether he is your supervisor or a guy you know in college he'll flat out deny your right to your opinion and say you are an absolute fool. now this confuses you. he seemed intelligent, that he coulda very well have been top notch in his class. yet why does he lack so much maturity? you look at him good and close and realization strikes you. he is that boy you knew on the playground that was always superman. looking back you always said he was unfair. all the other kids chose weaknesses for their super heroes...but this guy he was always invincible...then you compare him to that boy and realize he is still the same. to him might makes right whether it is by physical force or playing manipulative mind games. you decide to observe him. he is very quick to point out the flaws in the other employees or roomates including yourself. yet you see something in his eyes...you see an all consuming fear. then it hits you. he was superman...being invincible he didn't have to aknowledge his own faults. being superman he could stay in his fortess of solitude to drown out the voices and opinions of others. since there was noone to compare himself to he was of course always right by default. of course the real superman has a weakness(kryptonite) but that's not what i'm getting at. how many of you have known people that were by all social statistics intelligent,wealthy, and witty yet they still possess the spoiled brat mentality of immature children? also, how do you deal with these kind of people and keep your cool? personally i think ignoring or tuning them out is the best route. if they're your boss you can just do your job and blurt out their snide remarks by imagining soothing music or being with someone you love. i find snapping back at such people really doesn't help because your just adding fuel to the fire. i think such individuals thrive on conflict so it's best to just symbolically walk around them. any other suggestions?

[idgaf rpgfan]

I think that the realization that they are acting the superman role makes them easier to deal with, I have a sort of sympathy for them cuz they can't deal with their own flaws for whatever reason. It's probably caused by an extremely low self esteem that they are covering up or something like that. But knowing that they cannot deal with personal flaws is causing their behavior makes them easy to ignore.

[Zelphiel]

actually DC kind of gave Superman more, or better powers as they went along... originally he was just "faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a locomotive, and could leap tall buildings in a single bound"...

as for me I was always Wolverine or Venom, but yes I grew up with a few kids that always wanted to be Superman or one of the other absurdly powerful heroes.

[nightsavior]

i think your're right. because of their general lack of maturity you cannot really reason with them. i used to think if i debated such individuals long enough i'd gradually make a difference and that perhaps "we" could realize how idiotic we were both being and walk away as friends. still if they refuse to listen to what you have to say it's quite pointless. a debate is built upon the principles that each person has an opinion but neither party is fully correct or fully wrong. the minute someone says your "absolutely" wrong and starts resorting more and more to childish name calling you realize they really don't have much to contribute. i guess a part of me does pity these people. they have so very much potential yet at the same time they are so blind,deth,and dumb to the world of wonder and discovery around them. and as for super heroes lath i agree. i never liked superman much. i just used him to illustrate my point. my favorite dc hero was batman which was just a normal guy that used his wits and cunning to survive. of course it helped bruce wayne had millions of dollars to perfect making all his gadjets. lol. the flash is cool simply because he has a sense of humor. dare devil,wolverine,rogue,emma frost,magneto,mystique,night crawler,and spiderman stand out as my favorite marvel characters

[The Wang Master]

Well superman stood for truth justice and the american way, are those bad things?

I have yet to find someone that I can't make fun of. Well there was Christian but well. . .he's just so friggin hot. I mean I'm not gay it's just he was really admirable.

I tend to fit in everywhere, which is good, being witty helps me do that. You on the other hand have an inferiority complex brought on by you being inferior. I don't understand that.

Most people that say others keep them down allow others to do so. Just rise up against them and call them a pig ****er. Why not fight back, take up the offensive and bring it to their door. Don't ever give in or give up and be ever striving to be who you are. What if what you are is great, so if you are great, shouldn't you believe in your greatness. We all have our talents, why shouldn't we show them off when called for. Why should anyone have to stifle themselves because others don't like it?

I don't believe you have really thought out your superman complex. Perhaps if you talked to someone like that, you'd get to understand that. . .they just don't have a **** to give. Maybe it's just you because you're a dumbass or something.

if this thread is in responce to the "debate" well the whole discussion was how much of a moron you are. Rhetoric, how I love it so.

[nightsavior]

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"I don't believe you have really thought out your superman complex. Perhaps if you talked to someone like that, you'd get to understand that. . .they just don't have a **** to give. Maybe it's just you because you're a dumbass or something.

if this thread is in responce to the "debate" well the whole discussion was how much of a moron you are. Rhetoric, how I love it so"

[The Wang Master]

I said "or something" and it was a reference to how people in real life percieve you. Considering you made the same points as you did in the other thread, I felt that it was direct towards me. Also I posted 8 hours after you did, and I also have other people ahead of me.

The second point, I was just clarifying that you misunderstood the "debate" it wasn't about anything but you and your moron status.

This is merely a discussion, considering you used your perspective as an example I believe I have the right to do the same. True rather than discuss the merits I'm considering where this statement is coming from, but that is all a part of discussion. I think you are wrong by the way.

*oppreses the weak* Plus that was a moron like way to try and set me up for a violation.

[nightsavior]

for one i did not originally bring up your name in this topic fairy. two, in gates of hell when two individuals go at it i doubt others look at what they post . this is not necessarily refering to you...it's just refering to ppl who exhibit the "superman complex" in general. personally you are in violation of the rules. i merely brought that to everyone's attention. hey if you want to play dirty fine...but if you do i WILL throw the rulebook at you. i do have the right to defend myself. if you want to call me a moron,a coward, and a dumbass fine...there's a place for that..it's called gates of hell. but when you do that here you are in violation of rules 2 and 3. it's that simple.

[The Wang Master]

I wasn't calling you a dumbass, I was saying others may see you as a dumbass or something in real life. That's all.

Couldn't this be a jealous super vilian complex. You want the powers but you can't have them, so you say they are snooty and say they consider themselves on a higher pedestal. You want to say, hey I'm more of a real person because I'm not promoting how great I am, while keeping them high up there to point out how they look down on others.

What annoys me is the way people look at others with a closed mind, a prejudice mind. Why would you want to label someone with "superman complex" as though you know them enough to tell the story of them for them. This guy is a jerk because he puts me down, big ****ing deal. Maybe you deserve it, maybe you want it, until you really think about yourself and figure out your "malfunction" I don't think you should go making up complexes.

[nightsavior]

fairy you can twist it around all you want you were in violation of the rules and you were flaming and trolling in this topic. don't try to weasel your way out of the truth. that too is what you would classify as being weak. me, i gotta go...my friends and i are going out and having fun. how you can continue to break the rules around here while not getting booted is beyond me. afterall lancet and lath do a damn good job at heading this forum. if you want to still trash talk me and make me look like a simpleton and super villian that is jealous of your "powers" take it back to gates of hell where it belongs, though as i have said in that thread you no longer exist so do not count on me responding for your amusement. as for making up a complex i did it simply to illustrate a point in the best way i knew how. its not like i claimed to be a psychologist. i mean you can observe someone and make assumptions. it doesn't mean they are correct. "the superman complex" is a hypothesis not a fact set in stone. this as i said is a debate. all opinions are neither fully right or fully wrong.

[The Wang Master]

as for making up a complex i did it simply to illustrate a point in the best way i knew how. its not like i claimed to be a psychologist.

The point was your complex theory, or am I mistaken?

You are the one bringing it up instead of countering my arguements of how wrong your complex is, and how flawed the person who came up with it is. You are just upset because you failed again.

Actually you have yet to refute my comments with any reference to them in your posts. Rather than debate me, you want to put me in violation of rules? Are you a politician?

[Chicken Little]

i sense with my uber ninja sense that your in a disagreement SO seeing as im a nice guy and all both of yuo put on your capes and duke it out like real superheroes. I'll referee ^_^

now yes i knew ppl with the superman complex, fortunately they grew out of it and now have a 'wwooootttt im a whore im better' complex, to which the expected result is to cackle and fall over with a stitch. Ive recently come across another person who hasnt grown up (personally i think he shouldnt have passed yr 6 let alone be in 1st year university) who basically leads a group took the smarter kid under his wing so he could get the work done. Thats it. So what we do is simply let him have his fun without ignoring him cuz well when hes alone and asks for work or whatever cuz hes always right in his decisions and pleads that until your ears bleed, well superman has then been screwed so far up the ass he's bleeding from his mouth and will ultimately smack into the building, be run over by the locomotive or fail to dodge the bullet.

*ninja dusts*

[nightsavior]

i sense with my uber ninja sense that your in a disagreement SO seeing as im a nice guy and all both of yuo put on your capes and duke it out like real superheroes. I'll referee ^_^

"now yes i knew ppl with the superman complex, fortunately they grew out of it and now have a 'wwooootttt im a whore im better' complex, to which the expected result is to cackle and fall over with a stitch. Ive recently come across another person who hasnt grown up (personally i think he shouldnt have passed yr 6 let alone be in 1st year university) who basically leads a group took the smarter kid under his wing so he could get the work done. Thats it. So what we do is simply let him have his fun without ignoring him cuz well when hes alone and asks for work or whatever cuz hes always right in his decisions and pleads that until your ears bleed, well superman has then been screwed so far up the ass he's bleeding from his mouth and will ultimately smack into the building, be run over by the locomotive or fail to dodge the bullet."

*ninja dusts*



wow ninja in an odd way that is quite beautiful and enligtening! lol. well in my opinion this topic has served its purpose i got my answers. it's pointless to argue with these types of ppl. i relate it to running on a tread mill while trying to win a race...anotherwords you get nowhere fast. thanks for being the ref by the way ninja,this topic needed some humor and true wisdom injected into it. lol. and you are right why do the work? these self proclaimed intellectual giants with the maturity of spoiled brats will utterly be their own demise. if they'd proably get out more instead of religiously posting in forums they'd proably learn a heck of alot. with that said i'm going to start taking my own advice and get out more. i actually stayed outdoors all day today until around 11 pm and it was quite nice.

[Wallie Wildo]

kinda like my stepdad and i hate him so damn much

[nightsavior]

sorry to hear that caw my dad had the superman complex too. in any debate he'd insist on being right. one day he came to visit me and my roomie. anyway alex and my dad got into a debate about different styles of firearms and when they came out. anyway,like with me he wouldn't even aknowledge what alex had to say nor would he give him time to talk. later just because we were being immature geeks we looked up the information presented in the argument..not surprisingly alex was %100 right. still being right isn't important if you are trully intelligent you can look at things from more than one perspective and if you are trully mature you can accept other ppl's opinions even though you may not agree with them fully.

[Wallie Wildo]

same thing here once we were arguing over the fact that aint was in a dictionary at my school and it was i finaly proved him wrong and he said it was wrong the dictionary was wrong lol

[Zelphiel]

Fairy... this is your only warning. Stop trolling and flaming or you'll get a one week ban. This is starting to become a little too frequent.

[Chicken Little]

o.o

i helped

h...e...l...p help

lol my dad did that today, whenever theres a problem its always daniel do this and this fetch this get me that and meanwhile when all you hear is F**, f* stupid son of a i casually stroll up and say yeah if you look at it this shoulda gone here. He pauses, i back off he tries it, it works then yuo hear one last F** mother c** and afterwards he jokes around about how he figured it out lol

It isnt so much that i knew what i was doing and relegated to a go-for boy its thta you need to let the superman get things out of their systems. I might sound a bit snobbish because of this but truely smart peopel knwo when to flaunt their intelligence and when to input.

[nightsavior]

very true ninja. i mean if you have the skills you should definetly add your input if it can get something done faster and better. as for flaunting intelligence right now i just have kinda a screwed up view on it. guess it's ok to flaunt it alittle(work it ninja,work it!) but some people like a full blown dog and pony show. i'm guilty of it from time to time especially when i feel like i'm being attacked or belittled for no good reason. sometimes rather then just let it roll off my back like i should i become that frompy hatted wizard to challenage the suron that is my opponent. then as i'm casting all my fancy smancy wizard spells (many which are useless though i think they are cool especially the pretty fireworks) i realize how silly arguing is unless of course i and the other person can learn from it. my weakness is i overeact if i percieve someone is being hurt delibertly by another physically or emotionally. it ignites a rage inside me so i end up challenging the individual i percieve is doing the bullying. of course though well intentioned as i maybe i'm not always right. sometimes i slay the real dragons...and other times i end up in an epic struggle with the windmill that i percieve to be the dragon. lol. hey i never said i was perfect...

[Chicken Little]

but then you could argue the point really that admitting mistakes is wisdom. Heck i do that from time to time (less often though since i avoide conflict cuz i cant possibly stand a chance in anything but a verbal bout)Theres really no point in , lets say the argument is chicken throwing the species of alien that appeared 450 million years ago, thats like throwing them amunition. So really its all about what you say, when and why that people percieve you as intelligent, retarded or whatever.

[nightsavior]

yeah i learned from my dad that sometimes you can't change someone's opinion of you. he was at odds with me when i was 13 and he's at odds with me now that i'm 26. i guess when it comes down to it you got to love yourself and not get down on yourself if a few people think your an idiot or whatever. actually the reason i partly wrote this topic was because of my father. it's so funny because he thought he was this well learned,wise,and charming individual even though he was an opinonated,ignorant,hyper critical,womanizing jack ass. of course i have flaws too but i'll at least try to put myself in someone's shoes to understand where they're coming from even though i might not fully agree with them. my problem is i can be alittle to zealous and self righteous on occasion. sometimes i don't think logically and rush in with the calvary even when it is not needed. i think it's because i know how much it hurts to be picked on and scapegoated and i can't stand to see others in distress. still to grow every once in awhile people need to be roughed up alittle. being the typical "protector" archtype i have a hard time coming to grips with that.