I'm weirdin' out...

[cid]

i had a dream and well...everything is basically explained in this convo i had with yvl...

makomeltdownff7: wow...dreamer boy check this out...
makomeltdownff7: idk if you know that i'm a lucid dreamer?
Ultima 9921: Hwat?
Ultima 9921: I dont know what that even means
Ultima 9921: what is it?
makomeltdownff7: sorry
Ultima 9921: np
makomeltdownff7: it means that well, i can tell when i'm dreaming
makomeltdownff7: i think it goes something like this, I dream, my mind notices something odd, like an anomyly and says WOW! thats impossible...i must be dreaming...
makomeltdownff7: and therefore...
makomeltdownff7: i cant control what i want in my dreams
makomeltdownff7: *can
makomeltdownff7: sorry
Ultima 9921: ahh, I had a few of those
makomeltdownff7: its not like i can tell the future
makomeltdownff7: i just just...well play simcity
makomeltdownff7: i can control the world around me
Ultima 9921: exactly, I remember the ones I had
makomeltdownff7: like once, i created a room full of really hot HOT hookers
makomeltdownff7: ...and well...
Ultima 9921: lol
makomeltdownff7: we'll just leave it at that
makomeltdownff7: but last night
makomeltdownff7: well first off, lately, i've just decided not to dream, everyonce in a while i do it just to experiment, but other wise, as soon as i realize there is a dream i...i dont know how i do it...i guess i try to roll my eyes...but i'm not sure what i'm really doing
makomeltdownff7: but last night i had a dream that was the same as always...i knew i was having it, and i could change stuff, but i couldn't end it like i woudl normally do
makomeltdownff7: i was walking through a wheat field and just to make sure it was well "real" or normal, i picked up a pebble and turned it into a desert eagle (whether you find that funny or not) stuck it in my belt and kept walking. I walked continuously through the wheat field into the sun for what seemed like a looong time but i cant quite tell, there was teh last time i tried to end it but it didn't work so i decided to just let it continue, i walked and walked till finally i tripped over a basketball sized rock
makomeltdownff7: i picked up the rock, and it said something really weird, like it wasn't in a language that uses A B C but other letters like greek, but somehow i knew it was a word, then, i said the word! whatever it was i'm not sure it sounded like U-kashy-mah-turro i guess, it was odd and all of a sudden the entire world rushed right through me and into me and the whole thing combined buildings went right through me, trees people everything until i was standing on a 10 diameter island and there was one piece of wheat in the middle of it, at that point i looked at the rock and instead of what was written before it said "Tomorrow..." and i woke up to my dad asking my if i wanted to ride down to the bagel shop...
makomeltdownff7: i guess i just wait and see what happens tonight...
Ultima 9921: How long have you had lucid dreams?
makomeltdownff7: since i had a dream when i was 8 when i guy said to me, "This is all real, your just not dreaming" in a dream adn since i've learned to manipulate them however i want
Ultima 9921: interesting...
makomeltdownff7: lol lots of fun
makomeltdownff7: once i placed a landbridge from germany to the US just to see what happened
makomeltdownff7: well
makomeltdownff7: from england
Ultima 9921: indeed
makomeltdownff7: lol we caught the army half way across and dropped a nuke in the middle of the ocean
makomeltdownff7: took care o' that
Ultima 9921: WHAA?
makomeltdownff7: well i'm sure thats not really would happen
Ultima 9921: indeed
makomeltdownff7: i believe that particular dream dated like 2079 or something
Ultima 9921: oh by then sure
makomeltdownff7: usually i try to find a calender and a tv just to find out some stuff
Ultima 9921: Since your dreams arent prophetic as far as we know, I would imagine it was talking about the dream you'll have tonight.
makomeltdownff7: thats what i made out of it
makomeltdownff7: or since i woke up to my dad waking me, it was the beginning of the dream and would've gone farther but couldn't so it will continue tonight
Ultima 9921: indeed, I hate when people wake me when I'm dreaming
Ultima 9921: to the point that I hurt them
makomeltdownff7: well yea but i dont really have prophetic dreams like you where i cant have them over my dreams are filled with whatever i want, and therefore easily remade
Ultima 9921: right I see

[king kuppy]

makomeltdownff7: like once, i created a room full of really hot HOT hookers

was there a little bunny sittiing in the corner???
wow, i wish i could maipulate my dreams, it must be cool

[Rainbow Dash]

was there a little bunny sittiing in the corner???
wow, i wish i could maipulate my dreams, it must be cool
I managed to do it a few times myself, but I had insomnia at the time. I basically stayed up to the point that I literally collapsed. My brain would not shut down. I havent been able to replicate this.

[cid]

well it ok, but after i wake up i find it hard to fall back to sleep...

[night sk8r]

well do u know how to actually manipulate them? Can u do it any time u want and how do u do it dude?

[cid]

its hard to explain...when i enter a dream it's usually weird for a few seconds...like...like if you have dirt in your eye and its blurry not everything is understandble and then all of a sudden the dirt is gone, everythings clear and i know what i'm doing...then how i manipulate things...well...its like...i just..."will" it i guess, i concentrate everything on that single piece of matter and what is supposed to happen, and it..happens...it sounds complicated but it really as it sounds...

[Dark Marmosett]

I can do that all the time. Like if my dreams go towards a nightmare or not the way I want it to go. I just change it...don't know how..I just do.

[T1000416]

I used to be able to manipulate my dreams up until a couple years ago. I started dreaming differently somehow, and I couldnt control them anymore.

[Ashe]

i used to be able to control my dreams.... now i barely dream or even notice i am dreaming... i guess i just sleep in blackness until i wake up... wonder what i would be dreaming if i could right now? lol ... oh well... i still manage to dream of the future... without dreaming...somehow.... or maybe i just see the future at random times...? iono lol...

[night sk8r]

Now thats what i do sometimes, see bits and peices of the future wether now or in the distant future i guess u could call it a feeling of De Ja Voo ( or how ever u spell it)
i ever see it in the future or know that wat i just saw, i saw in a dream sometime but dont remember.....so im a weirdo too:)

[Cylest]

that's...interesting. have you ever tried to manipulate any objects while you've been awake? like sitting at home, or doing whatever you do during a normal day.

i'll explain myself when you answer.

[night sk8r]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! See i can manipulate some objects.........like when i put a pringle in my mouth i chew it and i manipulated it.....
isnt that awsome!?!!?!

[Cylest]

uh...I don't exactly think that's what i was talking about. I mean if you've ever just focused on an object in the room (or something nearby) and thought about it moving, and it actually move is what i'm saying. the first few times you do it it hurts like hell. makes you feel like you're about to pass out, you're still looking but all you can see is blackness. but once you get it under control, it's really quite painless and almost second nature.

[The Deity]

...I have my doubts that this forum is filled with this many people who can manipulate their dreams. There aren't very many lucid dreamers out there.

[night sk8r]

uh...I don't exactly think that's what i was talking about. I mean if you've ever just focused on an object in the room (or something nearby) and thought about it moving, and it actually move is what i'm saying. the first few times you do it it hurts like hell. makes you feel like you're about to pass out, you're still looking but all you can see is blackness. but once you get it under control, it's really quite painless and almost second nature.

Well i highly doubt that, thats like something from the matrix which is completely fictional

[cid]

...I have my doubts that this forum is filled with this many people who can manipulate their dreams. There aren't very many lucid dreamers out there.

yea...uhh..i was just thinking that, what you guys are doing isn't maniputating your dreams its just called...well...dreaming, it may seem like your manipulating it...

uh...I don't exactly think that's what i was talking about. I mean if you've ever just focused on an object in the room (or something nearby) and thought about it moving, and it actually move is what i'm saying. the first few times you do it it hurts like hell. makes you feel like you're about to pass out, you're still looking but all you can see is blackness. but once you get it under control, it's really quite painless and almost second nature.

i dont really find THAT true...but the other day i was sitting here and the same way i do in a dream i tried to make something appear, and it..well appeared, only for a few seconds, but it wasn't real it was like a mirage, it was a soda can actually adn when i put my finger closer to it, it dissapeared...but it seemed so real...

and i had the other half of my dream the other night, but, i didn't post it yesterday cause EF's server was down.

I was standing on the island again with the wheat still in the middle of the island and the rock in my hands still. all of a sudden the rock got small enough to fit in my pocket but i could still read the text on it, so i put it in my left pocket, then walked closer to the wheat, i touch the tip of it and it shocked me and i quick pulled my hand away. I did it again and i quick pulled my hand away. I did it one more time but i completely grabbed onto the wheat and wrapped my hand around it and the electricity flowed all through my body, i could feel the pain it hurt like fuck but i couldn't let go until finally everything went black. when i woke up i was on a beach with a really REALLY beautiful girl above me. She reminded me of an indian with animal skins on long black hair and bright blue eyes. She stuck her hand out and i touched it and felt all the energy returning to me, so i grabbed her hand and i was felt great again. She said something to me in a language i didn't understand, liek one i've never heard before and somehow i must've known it because i responded in the same language, i followed her through the a town and all the people inside watched, each one had bright blue eyes. She led me inside of a building, a building in the very center. It was humongous, on the inside as soon as i walked in, the walls were covered in windows, but outside wasn't what it really was outside it was the night sky. Around the room were 8 pedestals each one with a differen't "element" like thing on it. (btw, it seemed like a really long dream, and describing it now, i can tell it was long) by element it was like, fire, water, air, earth, whatever. i walked to one that had a hovering disc on it, touched the disc and i fell, fell forever it seemed like a long time when i finally landed on a mountain top, but i didn't hit hard, i was floating. I ran all the way along the mountains on the air never touching the ground till i found a gateway, i walked through the gateway and i could tell that i was somewhere i knew, i kept walking like i knew where i was going, there were people all aroudn me that would scream when they saw me adn run. i kept running though not paying attention, till i got to a house a big white house and i knocked on the door, and a woman answered who immediately screamed and fell back, and then a guy ran down the stairs, he saw me and said "Oh my- dear lord in heaven, come with me i know what you have to do" i said "what? what's wrong with me" we talked for a long time and he showed me a mirror and i saw what scared everyone, my eyes were piercing blue and i had a scar that ran all the way around my face, then across it going over my eye around my nose and then around my mouth, and there was blood all over my shirt (which i hadn't noticed before) we talked for a long time, i don't know what we were talking about, but somehow i guess the way he talked he reminded me of yvl, and he also mentioned that he had dreams that were strange to. I asked "is this all a dream" and he said "it is, but its more than one" at that point he said his name was [a name] which i later found out was yvl's real name, and it only gets weirder.

We walked outside and got in a car and drove for a long time while we were in the car he told me to focus on the soda can in the cup holder and the soda can started to float, there is a whole discussion but in essance, i figured out that i had telepathic powers he also told me that the symbol of the scar on my face was a representation of that power that was long lost. and that there were 7 other powers (which made sense cause in that one room there were 8 pedestals) We drove for a long time, eventually he told me to hold on we flew off the end of a boardwalk into the water, but the water didn't come into the car, it was like there was a force field around the car. our car kept sinking till it hit the bottom of the water and was engulfed in dirt, when we sank all the way down. we came out and i was in a cave, a nice cave, there were 7 other people there with the same markings on their face as mine, except, each one had a symbol representing one of each of the elements that were in that one room. "i have to go now" he said and left, i dont know how, but he did. Everyone talked to me for a long time, explaining what was happening and that we were the only ones that could save the world or something. For along time. then they told me to sleep, adn i slept, in the morning the woke me up and the next few seconds of the dream covered like a few years cause...well its just something you can tell...and we fought each other, honing our skills for a long time...until finally we were all sitting in a room and a voice was heard that said "it is time" at that point we all dissappeared and appeared on the surface, and we could all see the millions and millions of things coming out of the sky. we fought and fought and fought and fought forever killing countless people from the sky that i guess were bent on taking over our world, finally we finished and we landed on the ground and everyone gathered around us and shit and finally we were all alone and we all went to live in antarctica by ourselves (because we could i guess) but the main point was that we saved the world i guess...

idk i'm all confused now, i thought it might have some meaning, but now that i read what i just wrote, it sounds like the plot to a fantasy story, i'm dissapointed that i even brought it up...

[night sk8r]

yea i think its a little too much Nyquil before bed dude.....it say just one tablespoon
But wat do u do..........nooooooooo.....U DRINK THE WHOLE BOTTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GEEZ!

[cid]

GAH!! whatever...i'm starting to think it was just a stupid dream anyway...:P the only thing thats weird would be be that fact that yvl was in it by rl name, and i've never known his before...

[night sk8r]

Yea put that in that book ur writin the whole dream thing.....thall be good

[cid]

yea i've thought about it, i wish i could make a good movie out of it, the book idea kinda went...kerplop...

[night sk8r]

Well how bout we make somethin up and send it in to get published, itll be called
THE LORD OF THE SWINGS

[Cylest]

just you wait people. no, i can't control my dreams, and i doubt anyone can truly decide on how a dream will unfold. as for the manipulation of objects by using one's mind. that is very possible. some of you are not of age in which you have read certain...literature in class, but there are some pretty weird studies that the psychologist Sigmund Freud conducted about 200 some odd years ago.

hell, the whole concept about witchcraft is bogus to me, but at the same time i don't feel that there could've been THAT many people throughout history whose personal accounts (either witnessing or actually doing) were so similar and that they were making it all up. i have done it a couple of times myself-and for those of you who don't believe me then fine, cause i personally find it hard to believe myself. on both accounts though, i could not tell you how exactly i went about to actually mentally manipulate the objects, but i do know that in both instances i was extremely pissed off. the feeling is well...like your mind goes blank really, and the only proof that anything has happened is that a certain object is in a new location than it was just a few seconds earlier.

i've never pursued it, the subject interests me but at the same time i feel that it would just be a waste of time to try to "master". me personally, i believe that there is such a thing as supernatural powers, and that there are those certain people that have the gift to wield that power at their own will. to those people it's second nature just like for some people driving a car is second nature.

i digress, for i feel that i may have gone off topic. but there's some things in life that can't be explained, and it's best to just leave them alone...

[night sk8r]

well it is really hard to believe but i really dont think it would be possible because ur brain doesnt actually give off physical waves...ur brain is simply a processing unit in which ur memory is stored and other mental things happen in that big skull of urs...u might hav thought really hard and just tricked urself into believing that u moved it but i highly doubt thats true.....but wat the hell do i know i just stupid

[Cylest]

don't say that now. i can't explain it and therefore i am prone to believe that i didn't move the object. *shrugs* dunno, some things are so trivial that they don't even deserve someone's time to think about.

[night sk8r]

im just voicin my opinions but it might be true it might not be so idk

[cid]

well it is really hard to believe but i really dont think it would be possible because ur brain doesnt actually give off physical waves...ur brain is simply a processing unit in which ur memory is stored and other mental things happen in that big skull of urs...u might hav thought really hard and just tricked urself into believing that u moved it but i highly doubt thats true.....but wat the hell do i know i just stupid

o.O;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

don't worry wannabe nerd...your gettin' there....

Yea i'm not sure if i really agree with the whole telekinetic thing, i find it hard to believe, cause like waht ian said, your brain doesn't give off physical waves, i think what may happen is that you try to so hard at it, you brain believe that you actually pulled it off...

[Cylest]

and I don't deny that. like i said, i personally find it hard to believe that i actually did do anything, so i'm prone to believe that i didn't. still makes for something interesting to think about though. how much easier life would be if you could manipulate anything with your mind...

[cid]

i guess it would be an interesting concept to study...

[Cylest]

i'm not saying study per se, just the simple "what if" question. what if you had this ability? life would be so much more...interesting.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

Sigmund Freud...was not the brightest individual, so we shouldn't exactly believe everything he says.
i digress, for i feel that i may have gone off topic.This sentence amuses me.

[Cylest]

lol. and what about my closing sentence amuses you my friend? and yes, Freud was a pervert who related everything in life to sex...so you're correct, i shouldn't really be giving him any credit on this.

[cid]

i think mac might follow in the ways of Freud if he ever found out...

and yea...lol i just read it again...and it was amusing....

anyway Raist what do you think about the whole thing?

[The Deity]

lol. and what about my closing sentence amuses you my friend?

You basically said I digress, because I feel I have digressed.

and yes, Freud was a pervert who related everything in life to sex...so you're correct, i shouldn't really be giving him any credit on this.

I find his theories amusing.

[cid]

BAH!!! i'm having problems and i wish someone would pay attention to the meaning of the thread...where did Freud come into this anyway?

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

anyway Raist what do you think about the whole thing?Which part, your dream or telekinesis? I skimmed your post a few days ago, but it didn't particularly interest me, so I didn't bother remembering most of it. I've heard of lucid dreamers before, but I don't know much about it. I think a lot of the people here are probably just referring to dreams you have while you're waking up, which are much easier to control.

Telekinesis I believe to be complete crap.

[Qween B]

Telekinesis I believe to be complete crap.


i believe the same. nor do i believe people can dream the future or anything really i dont have valid proof to tell me otherwise anyway

[cid]

meh nvm then...if it doesn't interest you forget it...

[Cylest]

sorry Cid, Freud WAS off topic. i merely through him in the mix to make a point. i understand what you're saying, i'm not sure if everyone else does though.

[cid]

no no its ok i dont care and pupil, you'll never have proof being that you cant see what someone else is dreaming, its all about faith i guess *hopes this doesn't turn into an anti-bush or religion thread*

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

meh nvm then...if it doesn't interest you forget it...Dreams in general don't interest me, unless it's some cockamamy bullshit like "I can see the future because some girl had homework," but in all honesty it was probably just the format. I have difficulty processing IM convos.

[cid]

well the second half is like a novel...:P

[night sk8r]

Yea like the one u should right maybe

[cid]

ENOUGH!!! I'll try, but no garuntees now stop spammin or deity'll murderkick you....

[The Deity]

Yea like the one u should right maybe

I have no idea what you mean by this

ENOUGH!!! I'll try, but no garuntees now stop spammin or deity'll murderkick you....

I don't need a mini mod.

[cid]

yea but i dont need a pissed friend either =P

[Omega]

yea but i dont need a pissed friend either =P

lol.......



was there a little bunny sittiing in the corner???
wow, i wish i could maipulate my dreams, it must be cool

I had that thought once too.... It could be dangerous tho...

[night sk8r]

yea like accidentally changing something that happened in the past (Kinda like the movie The Butterfly Effect) now that would be scary

[Omega]

Depends on what you do.

I wouldn't want to mess with time though.... That's more dangerous than manipulating dreams tenfold....

[night sk8r]

yea true, this whole subject is tricky and could be very dangerous if this stuff was actually true

[Omega]

Yea Dreams use 40-50% of your senses so if you dream about being in a fighting game and you get hurt in the dream you might feel it in the morning

[night sk8r]

now that i dont believe cuz i dremt that i died once and got hit by laser beams like another time so i think thats kinda crap

[Omega]

lol..... probably....

What was the topic again, lol....

[cid]

I can manipulate dreams not real life...there is a difference, but if i could manipulate real life...*makes self ruler of world* *makes everyone here my councilors* *labels mac and cacaw as sex councilors* *deity and raist as the "serious" councilors* *ian is teh uber councilor* i could go on and on, but i wont. the next thing i do is *takes over france* because its just so easy...AHHH THE WHITE!! it burns my eyes...

on a more serious note, i dont really see how it could be that dangerous, its a dream. i mean you said about using 40-50% of senses in a dream. OK but i wouldn't feel hurt if i imagined myself in a fight because i KNOW its a dream, thats the whole thing about having lucid dreams...my brain says "OH LOOK!!! thats something wrong, it must be an anomyly" and therefore, i know its not real...so it cant effect me in real life...really...i mean....really..

[Omega]

I read it up on a encyclopedia.... It may be less though.....

[night sk8r]

i was sayin itll be dangerous in real life and if u get hurt in ur dreams but i know u cant manipulate those things in real life sooooooooooo

[cid]

i was sayin itll be dangerous in real life and if u get hurt in ur dreams but i know u cant manipulate those things in real life sooooooooooo

sooooooo what was the point of your post then?

[night sk8r]

to reply to the other post
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WAT DO U WANT FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cid]

For you to make sense for once would be nice, but this convorsation needs to be carried on no longer my friend there are bigger fish to fry and smaller...uhh...things...to... uhh...do..."something" too....

[The Deity]

I'm too f**king tired to figure out what de-railed this thread, but it certainly has.

If you want to talk about lucid dreams more Cid, make a new topic.