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Lancet Jades
05-13-2004, 10:47 PM
Cantwell's jobless bill fails by 1 vote

This story was published Wednesday, May 12th, 2004

By Les Blumenthal Herald Washington, D.C., bureau

WASHINGTON -- The Senate on Tuesday rejected by a single vote Sen. Maria Cantwell's amendment to provide extended federal unemployment benefits to 47,000 Washington workers and more than 1 million others nationwide.

The vote came as the chamber moved toward passage of a $170 billion corporate tax bill that would benefit Boeing, Microsoft and other U.S. exporters and help defuse a mounting trade dispute with the European Union.

Cantwell, D-Wash., sought to attach her amendment to the tax bill, but the Republican-controlled Senate rejected it on a 59-40 vote. The amendment required 60 votes to overcome objections it violated budget guidelines.

"It's really disappointing," said Cantwell, who has repeatedly over the past several months sought to convince the Senate to extend the benefits.

Cantwell said she ran into a Republican leadership that was determined to defeat her amendment. She said she hadn't decided what comes next.

"It took a lot to get this vote, to get the momentum," she said.

The only senator who missed the vote was Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, who was campaigning in Kentucky. But the decisive vote against the amendment was apparently cast by Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, R-Colo., who had earlier told Cantwell he supported extending federal unemployment benefits for an additional 13 weeks.

During debate, Republicans insisted the additional benefits weren't needed because the economy was recovering, unemployment was down and 900,000 new jobs had been created since the first of the year.

"The economy is strong, the recovery is real and no amount of political rhetoric can change that," said Sen. Robert Bennett, R-Utah.

But Cantwell scolded her colleagues for backing corporate tax cuts while forgetting about American workers who have lost their jobs. Cantwell said the tax bill would provide $3 billion in tax credits for the oil and gas industry, $2.3 billion for the coal industry, $451 for bourbon distillers, $233 for cruise ship companies and $4 million for archery manufacturers.

Nationwide, Cantwell said, more than 1.5 million workers had exhausted their unemployment benefits since December.

"They are going into bankruptcy, defaulting on their mortgages, they aren't able to afford health insurance," said Cantwell. "Where are the priorities of my colleagues?"

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Lol, the idiot Kerry didnt vote. What does he have to say to that?

"Oh, I didn't vote, true. But it's all Bush's fault I didn't! I was too busy bashing him in my campaign."

idgaf rpgfan
05-14-2004, 12:51 AM
Just another example of how politicians are controlled by those with the money for the BIG campain contributions. Business gets the break and the people get the shaft.

The Wang Master
05-14-2004, 01:11 AM
So was it a tax bill that was in place or was she attatching a rider. If it was a rider it would still make Kerry look like he was endorsing the tax cuts for big business.

Chicken Little
05-14-2004, 01:22 AM
did he miss it on purpose or did he just show no interest in it?

Lancet Jades
05-14-2004, 01:44 AM
It just goes to show you that Mr. Kerry, with all his wealth, likes to talk big, but not back it up. If he was feeling so benevolent and truly wanted to help people, he would've made it a point to get there. But, he already has his millions, and with his Bush-bashing campaign effectively hiding what exactly he would plan to do in office (aside from tax increases that would cripple poorer families), why should he care about the common man at all?

The Wang Master
05-14-2004, 01:53 AM
Hey asshole, answer my question. Was it a rider. Because with all the bills he can pass as president this piddly little thing can be let go. You aren't looking at the big picture. If it was a rider, then it would have his endorsement, and the bill is mostly tax cuts to the rich people. Plus Kerry's money comes from his wife, dumbasss.

loki777_1
05-14-2004, 01:28 PM
thank you fairy for bringing some common sense to this. Can't just fix a problem by throwning money at it... MY money.

idgaf rpgfan
05-14-2004, 03:10 PM
thank you fairy for bringing some common sense to this. Can't just fix a problem by throwning money at it... MY money.
Accually that is one of the ways to "fix" the economy, and therefore the job market.
more money=more spending=more capital=more expansion=more jobs=less unemployment
And yes I know that there are more factors in this but when people start losing their homes and other valuables that affects many parts of the economy.

The Wang Master
05-14-2004, 03:38 PM
What about outsourcing jobs. Alot of the big companies go to places like China to get cheaper labor. That is seen as a good thing in the respect that it is increasing the economy in China.

And Loki completely missed my point. This is just one bill out of many that will be used. If Kerry was to attacth his name to it he would look like a hypocrite supporting big business. Eternal, unless he responds, is being a dumbass republican who doesn't understand the political game. When he gets in office he will be able to influence the bills and new programs for the impoverished and or unemployed.

He's campaigning, he is doing his part for the democratic party. Conan is on so I'm stopping here.

idgaf rpgfan
05-15-2004, 01:40 AM
As far as the job outsourcing, it sucks, plain and simple, unfortunately, companies will keep doing it to keep the labor costs down which results in cheaper prices with more profit for the shareholders. Too bad the only way to stop that would be to get enough people willing to pay more for Americian made goods, then the companies wouldn't have a choice except to be made in th USA. But this is America, land of the let's make a buck at whatever expense.

The Wang Master
05-15-2004, 01:54 AM
Well the only reason it is cheap now is because their economy fell not too long ago. There are alot of people out of work, so this will allow them to reclaim their identity as a working nation.

It'll die down soon, and because we refuse to redo our economy we are going to continue to lose jobs to foreign markets.

Unfortunately we have a monopolized competitive market. What that means is, we make progress in things but we make progress in things that we are allowed to invest in. We have the hybrid car, not a purely electric car. I've heard of cars that run off of water. We are advancing in the wrong fields. Like trying to sell a top of the line photo album to someone with a computer and a digital camera, instead of trying to sell a really good printer.