FF7 and FF10--the same world???

[Lancet Jades]

(stole this from another forum :) )

Could FF7 and FF10 possibly have taken place on the same planet???
Considering the landmass and things, its possible.

I'll post my complete thoughts and theories on tohis after some other people post.

do NOT post in here saying "FF7/FF10 sucked". IF you're only going to hate on them, don't post.

[Wallie Wildo]

its possible i guess but i would like to see some proof other then tidus and cloud both suck lol i really doubt it though but i think that all of the ffs are conected in a way maybe in the future square will answer all of the questions like are they all conected it would be awsome if there was an actual final fantasy that was the last one where all of the charicters were in (at least the ones that didnt die) and it had a huge story *hint* i hope square sees this post :D

[Kiros]

wow? that would be weird yet kool

[Lancet Jades]

Ok, first assume:
Promised Land = Farplane
Mako = Pyreflies, farplane energy


Regarding landforms, I don’t think continental drift was what changed it. I think that the water level dropped. Think about it. If you were to decrease Spira's water level and estimate where new land would appear, it would look a LOT like FF7's world. That small line of land on the southeastern portion of Spira would become the jut of land that Wutai was on. Also, the cave w/ the special materia in it south of Wutai could possibly the remains of Baaj Temple (where Tidus and Rikku first met). The area south of Cosmo Canyon is also land that was revealed when the water level dropped (and Cosmo Canyon is what existed in Spira, which makes sense since it’s a mountain, meaning it is higher than the revealed land). The moonflow would be approximately where the Marsh w/ the Midgar Zolom is (perhaps its what’s left of the moonflow, after Midgar drained most of its "mako" and polluted it). Other landforms seem to fit into place too. Of course, some continental drift probly did occur, as well as natural disasters shaping the land further. Also, the Thunder plains probly became the plains where the Chocobo Farm is located (since it’s to the east of Midgar Marsh, which used to be the Moonflow).


Omega Ruins could have eventually become the island w/ Knights of the Round. I dunno why I thought of it, but if some continental drift did occur, it would make sense, sort of. Especially since Omega Ruins and that island both contain forces of immense power.



As for other places, the Zanarkand Ruins eventually became The Crater. The Crater was formed when Meteor initially crashed into the planet. Perhaps Meteor responded to something in Zanarkand for whatever reason? Hell, maybe Meteor is even a new embodiment of Sin! Mt. Gagazet could be the mountains that surround the Crater. When meteor hit, it probly leveled the mountain a great deal.



As for WHY the water level dropped. Well, when Meteor hit, it probly threw up a massive cloud of dust that blocked the sun for centuries (just like if a meteor hit earth). That would have lowered the temperature of the planet, this causing the ocean level to drop. Think about it. Spira doesn’t have that much ice in its northern regions. Sure, Mt. Gagazet does, but not THAT much. But FF7 world does. Its entire northern continent is covered in snow and ice! Plus, there's the Great Glacier (which is nearly completely ice probly). That’s where the ocean water went when it froze =/



Also, about The Crater being Zanarkand: The Crater was home to the WEAPONs. The WEAPONs were highly advanced semi-biological machinery used to protect the planet. Perhaps they started out as high-powered machina weapons, like Vegnagun, and after Meteor hit, the planet used its "mako" energy to "create" the WEAPONs as we know them now. Hell, Zanarkand had a lot of those Pyreflies there anyways, so it already had a lot of "mako" energy. Plus, if Meteor really is the new embodiment of Sin, perhaps Sin was attempting to return to its "home" (since Sin was born in Zanarkand).



As for the Farplane. We all know the entrance was located in Guadosalam. So, where in FF7 would Guadosalam be?? I'd estimate it is around where Midgar would be. Constructing Midgar where Guadosalam was would make sense. Midgar was built with all those Mako reactors. So, why would Midgar have so much more Mako to drain away than anywhere else? Well, if the Farplane was located nearby, or even IN Midgar, it would have plenty to drain away. Also, when Midgar was initially constructed, perhaps the designers and engineers, knowing they needed a LOT of mako energy, chose where Guadosalam used to be (or still was) due to its proximity to the Farplane (which has nearly limitless mako energy).



Also, Bevelle is near where Bone Village and the Village of the Ancients is located. Perhaps Bevelle became the home town of the Ancients during their time. Also, according to my theories, Bikanel would have become Mt. Nibel. (Since the water level dropped, its possible. Plus, natural disasters, as well as Meteor's aftermath could have affected it.



Aside from Meteor being an embodiment of Sin, Jenova could have been too. Or rather, perhaps Meteor is Sin, and Jenova is Yunalesca. Jenova was found in the northern regions, which is where Yunalesca resided, both in life and death. Her will to live may have caused her to be reborn from the Farplane, or Mako, or whatever, and then she was found. After all, Yunalesca DID have the power to transform herself into grotesque monster things, which is what Jenova Birth, Life, and Death were. Also, Jenova's traits were similar to Sin's. Any piece of Sin that broke off became its own monster. Parts of Jenova became big monsters you had to fight. And since Yunalesca and the person who became Sin were married, perhaps Sin gave some of its power to Jenova (if she's Yunalesca) to be able to do that? Perhaps Meteor AND Jenova are different forms of Sin that emerged, with Yunalesca as the base for Jenova.

[Chicken Little]

i can see the point but its highly unlikely.
See the problem is theres no referrences whatsoever in the game to anything associated with landforms or structures in FF7. While yes the correlation is drawn with pyreflies and lifestream the essence of souls and a spirits is a constant theme in the FF series therefore not bieng a valid argument in this case.

Now lets take FFIX for example, references were made to characters and weapons in that game that were in FF7, why then were there no referrences to anything or any story through Maechan? Even if he is absent minded he would still remember reading about a giant meteor and the savious of gaia/spira. Which is another contradiction.

Names.

Granted town names change constantly take the russians for example first from a German sounding St.Petresburg, then to Leningrad/Stalingrad then to another, all are recorded though. How so then did all the towns grow and change names from their previous names with no recorded change? How so then did gaia become known as Spira? How then did the summoners rise to power and a 'holy order' exist when only the select few of 7 knew about holy in FF7?

The theory poses too many questions about other things then just geological factors to be true.

[Chaos Theory]

I see where you are going but those are alot of big IFs

[Lancet Jades]

No, no fly. I mean FF7 occured AFTER FF10. Thus, Maechen wouldnt have known about Meteor because it hasnt occured yet.

[Zelphiel]

I think it's a possibility. I read something like this on another forum once...

[Wallie Wildo]

you seem to have put alot of thought into it the amount of free time some people have not that im not one of those people :D

[Chicken Little]

oh ho after whoop whoop whoop ^_^'

bah just swap the time frame around and its still a logical argument lol

[nightsavior]

it'd be cool if that was the case. still so far the only game i've seen in which ff characters interacted with each other was kingdom hearts...which in my opinion doesn't really count. also ff tactics did have a few hiddden guest stars including cloud. perhaps one day they'll come out with an ff called ff revelations that will tie everything together.

[Kaffee]

I was just thinking that while playing 10-2 yesterday. There are a lot of similarities I have to admit. And if it is that would be really cool. But you have to figure that the makers of these games have played the other FF and have them in mind when making new ones, so maybe its merging subconsciously.

[Laggy]

FF7 and FF10 suck!..oh wait, i cant just post that?...oh

lol yeah i could see that, but theres alot of things that people like us (fans) come up with

i once read about how cloud was like zells great great grand dad, now how they put it made alot of since, but i dont think thats whats going on, in some ways they do try to make all FFs the same, or ..make them fet togather in there own ways, but to me eatch one is a new game that have very little to do with the other

but yeah maybe this is true...lets just wait and see if square put anything oput on them someday..there could be alot that they put in to see if we'd catch it, and we just didnt =/