Foreign news about america

[Rainbow Dash]

Basically what I want is this: if someone's in a non-american country and is up to date on American politics, post news you hear about us here. The point of this is because the media in america is run by the government so we tend to not get the whole picture. That or the picture is blocked by coverage on how someone didn't show up for their wedding or coverage on a routine murder trial.

Even basic news that seems common to non-Americans may be shocking to us. Thank you.

[Ace of Jades]

I will once i move to...germany (not really)

But i think other countrys are to concerned about what the U.S. is doing, just because were the best.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

because the media in america is run by the governmentYou'd do well to read up on your First Amendment.

[Altima]

You'd do well to read up on your First Amendment.

Yeah freedom of speech and freedom of the press. So the media isn't controlled by the government. Unless it is and we all just don't know it becuase we have been brainwashed or something.

[Lancet Jades]

You'd do well to read up on your First Amendment.
Thats true, though that doesn't mean that the media doesn't favor one political party over the other (whether its liberal or conservative).

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

Thats true, though that doesn't mean that the media doesn't favor one political party over the other (whether its liberal or conservative).The media panders to one side or the other, but that doesn't mean it "favors" them. They're running a business, not a propaganda station.

[Rainbow Dash]

That came out wrong. I meant there are things not shown on our news stations about us that are common knowledge to other nations. We tend to not get the full story of world affairs here.

[Dark Luther]

Yvl9921,
If you have Direct TV - search for the ITN news network.
Their not the best network out there.....kinda low budget.
But they show news from everywhere - Germany, England, Canada, Japan, Asia, and other places......

( on mine it's 366 and is called NWI )

I also reccomend looking into getting certain news networks from Lebanon. It's an actual channel here - it has no political affiliation ( it goes out of it's way not to ) because Lebanon is very mixed. The network is meant for international coverage and is perhaps one of the best out there....

[Rainbow Dash]

I do not have that. And what's that leboneese channel called? I doubt I have it though.

[CommandConquer]

Basically what I want is this: if someone's in a non-american country and is up to date on American politics, post news you hear about us here. The point of this is because the media in america is run by the government so we tend to not get the whole picture. That or the picture is blocked by coverage on how someone didn't show up for their wedding or coverage on a routine murder trial.

Even basic news that seems common to non-Americans may be shocking to us. Thank you.


Actually, all the media does is slam the government. So that would be self defeating wouldn't it? The fact that all they do is insult the current administration and report anything they do is proof it is not government run.

[Dark Luther]

Have you seen Fox news lately?
That would bump your little theory right away.....

In the end, it's not as much the government but the parties that influence the media....

[CommandConquer]

Have you seen Fox news lately?
That would bump your little theory right away.....

In the end, it's not as much the government but the parties that influence the media....

Fox is conservative yes, but what about the others? There should be channels for each side since no one is going to be unbiased. So, CNN, CNNHN, and all the others are liberal, so that kinda bumps your little theory back out of the water.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

so that kinda bumps your little theory back out of the water.:hmm He was debunking yours, not proposing his own. You said "all the media does is slam the government," when Fox clearly does not. Dreadfully simple, so don't try to turn it around on him by grasping at straws.

[CommandConquer]

My bad, I thought he was the thread starter who said the government controlled the media. That and by agreeing with him, he also agress on that, so I wasn't grasping at straws. I was reffering to something unspoken, yet understood.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

My bad, I thought he was the thread starter who said the government controlled the media. That and by agreeing with him, he also agress on that, so I wasn't grasping at straws. I was reffering to something unspoken, yet understood.He did not say in that post "The thread starter is right," he just said "you are wrong." To assume he meant any more than that is not only grasping at straws, it's also pulling shit straight out of your ass (to put it bluntly).

If he believed the government controlled the media, he would mention more than just Fox news, because he knows that Fox is not the only media station out there.

[CommandConquer]

As I also said, I thought he was the thread starter. That's something called an accident you over bearing prick. Go ahead warn me for that. It's true as hell and I don't care.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

As I also said, I thought he was the thread starter.And if you'd left it at that instead of trying to save face, we wouldn't be having this problem.
you over bearing prick. I get that a lot. Still not sure why, considering I've only said that it is in fact not "unspoken yet understood," because there's no logical basis for it to be so.

[Rainbow Dash]

Firstly, Raist, I think you're being a little harsh on him, just let it go.

Secondly, all I know is that a foreign exchange student in my class this past year said that she was amazed at how much they aren't telling you or something to that effect, and some people I know online from other countries say the same thing. I don't really care about the political affiliation of the media, I just wish that they were a bit more open about certain affairs.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

Firstly, Raist, I think you're being a little harsh on him, just let it go.Thing is, I'm really not. I told him he was wrong. He comes back and says "Well, you see, if you look at this way, I'm not really wrong," then I say "Yes, you still are," and explain why. That's it. If he chooses to read a hostile intent that isn't there, that's not really my problem.

I just wish that they were a bit more open about certain affairs.You'd be surprised at what a biased media foreigners are subjected to, as well. It works both ways.

Though I'm curious as to which particular parts the media doesn't cover (I wouldn't know, I don't watch it). If you still can, ask your online friends for me. Seems better to take it from the source than to turn to the maybe four foreign members here.

[Rainbow Dash]

Though I'm curious as to which particular parts the media doesn't cover (I wouldn't know, I don't watch it). If you still can, ask your online friends for me. Seems better to take it from the source than to turn to the maybe four foreign members here.

That is what I was trying to get at, and I guess I overestimated how many foreign members we have by just a little... >.>

[Zelphiel]

commandconquor... calm the fuck down. all he did was point out that you were wrong about what you said. although with dennis miller having a show on fox news it isn't as wholy conservative as raist said. =/

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

although with dennis miller having a show on fox news it isn't as wholy conservative as raist said. Hmm. I don't really know much about Dennis Miller (or any TV personalities, as I don't watch much), but Wikipedia says he's a registered Republican, and even defines him as a neocon.

[Zelphiel]

The only reason I can think of him being a republican is he has a top tier income. A good portion of his views are pretty liberal.

[Lycanthroat]

But i think other countrys are to concerned about what the U.S. is doing, just because were the best.

Hrm.

Well....what new do you wanna hear? At the moment everybody is talking about G8 and Live Aid.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

The only reason I can think of him being a republican is he has a top tier income. A good portion of his views are pretty liberal.Well apparently the GOP loves him, and he's even gotten a ride on Air Force One. I'd hardly point at a moderate conservative when saying something isn't entirely conservative, because he's still conservative.

That said, I've found neither hide nor hair of him doing anything for Fox beyond a few guest appearances on Hannity and Colmes; all I've got is a canceled CNBC show.
Hrm.Are you trying to imply that we aren't? The U.S. is the strongest country in the world, and very little can get done without our support. Thus, the rest of the world pays attention to us, because they're not very happy with anybody that's not them having that kind of power.
Well....what new do you wanna hear? At the moment everybody is talking about G8 and Live Aid.post news you hear about us hereAs in, all those nasty, dirty secrets that American media won't tell us.

[Lycanthroat]

Are you trying to imply that we aren't? The U.S. is the strongest country in the world, and very little can get done without our support. Thus, the rest of the world pays attention to us, because they're not very happy with anybody that's not them having that kind of power.

I don't agree with the 'very little can be done without our support', but I'd say the rest is true. I said 'hrm' because I see this 'we're the best' attitude bandied about on many forums, joke or not. I certainly don't agree America is the 'best' - for instance, the US (I'm not going to use terms like 'you' and 'us') don't have a free health service whereas the UK has the NHS.

As in, all those nasty, dirty secrets that American media won't tell us.

C'mon - I live in the UK. Do you really think the US's biggest lapdog would broadcast America's secrets? The rest of Europe, you might get some dirt, but not here.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

I don't agree with the 'very little can be done without our support'You'd probably be wrong. I'll admit the EU has become much more powerful since banding together, but the UN wouldn't be able to do shit if it weren't for our military.

for instance, the US (I'm not going to use terms like 'you' and 'us')But you just did! [/crappy joke] :-p
don't have a free health service whereas the UK has the NHS.Well, certainly, the UK is smaller so its more easily affordable. Pure statistics, however, put the U.S. in front in just about every category you can think of. Mainly, however, I just say "we're the best" because we are the strongest nation in the world. That much... can't really be argued.
C'mon - I live in the UK. Do you really think the US's biggest lapdog would broadcast America's secrets? The rest of Europe, you might get some dirt, but not here.Considering that whole "100,000 Iraqi deaths" was first published in the Lancet, and some other interesting things that have come out of BBC, I wouldn't quite put Britain entirely out of the picture. Just because Blair supports Bush doesn't mean the media or the people do.

You could at least mention the Downing Street Memo. I'm a bit miffed myself over how few Americans know about it.

[Lycanthroat]

But you just did! [/crappy joke] :-p

Raist Majere...has...a...SENSE OF HUMOUR???? :P

:poke

You could at least mention the Downing Street Memo. I'm a bit miffed myself over how few Americans know about it.

I did - I posted a lovely thread about it in the News forum here a while ago. It died on it's arse - I got three replies saying basically ''I have nothing to say on this'' (plus some help on linkage) and it got flushed out pretty damn quick. I think it was during your 2 week hiatus, but I'm not sure.

[Sassafrass Raistimass]

Raist Majere...has...a...SENSE OF HUMOUR???? :PIf that's what you want to call it... I call it humor. :-p

I did - I posted a lovely thread about it in the News forum here a while ago. It died on it's arse - I got three replies saying basically ''I have nothing to say on this'' (plus some help on linkage) and it got flushed out pretty damn quick. I think it was during your 2 week hiatus, but I'm not sure.It probably was, considering that I don't remember posting in it, but I saw it. It was a nonposting hiatus, not a nonviewing hiatus (but you knew that already, didn't you? :chuckle). However, the thread starter may not have seen it, because he either may not have been active or didn't care at the time. Putting it in here, rather than its own thread, may (or may not *shrug*) call more attention to it.

[Seraph Zero]

Basically what I want is this: if someone's in a non-american country and is up to date on American politics, post news you hear about us here. The point of this is because the media in america is run by the government so we tend to not get the whole picture. That or the picture is blocked by coverage on how someone didn't show up for their wedding or coverage on a routine murder trial.

Even basic news that seems common to non-Americans may be shocking to us. Thank you.
BBC World News. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/) You may thank me now, or later.


But yes, the American media is rather biased to either side, depending on which news source you go to. Anyway, they only mention the stories that appeal to the ignorant and bloodthirsty masses- death, destruction, sex, corruption, scandal.... anything that makes us feel better about the situation we live in, be it good or bad. It seems that the American public enjoys watching the downfall of others; I mean, how else do you explain the popularity of reality tv shows in this country?