God...

[Lancet Jades]

Who beleives in some sort of God (can be the Christian God, a Hindu God, etc)?? IF you do, what proof, if any, do you have that you actually beleive in one?

And, if not, then why not? If someone were to prove, 100%, that there IS a God, would you beleive it then?
If you don't beleive in a God, then do you have actual proof that there isn't a god, or is it just an idle belief w/out any evidence?

[Wallie Wildo]

i dont beleave in a god and if somebody proved that there was i guess it would be stupid to not beleave them and i dont cuz of all of the stuff that goes on in the world no i dont have proof that there isnt a god but do you have proof there is

[Lancet Jades]

No, i dont have any definite proof that there is, but you dont have any that there isnt. In this world, just because you cant prove something, doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

There's no definite proof that there are aliens, but there probly is.
There's no definite proof of ghosts and the like, but yet they probly exist.

If you beleive in those things, then why not God? There's as much definite proof of those exist as there is that God exists. Some people, around the world, claim they've seen UFOs, claim they've seen ghosts, and some clain they've seen, or heard, God, in a dream or elsewhere.

IF you beleive in one of those 3 things, there's no reason why you shouldnt beleive em all.

[Wallie Wildo]

maybe not but i just have my own oppinions and athism just fits me i just know that thats the way i should be why not beleave in the easter bunny or santa im not gonna argue with you man i was just posting my oppinion not trying to get an argument started it kinda seems like this thread might turn into a flame war

[Zelphiel]

the only proof either way is one group saying there is, or there isn't.

[Tiffany]

i believe in God but i don't have any proof..just b/c u can't see something doesn't mean it's not there

[Laggy]

i believe in God, and i have no proof that can be said here that would make anyone believe but i have felt God in many ways, i have seen him in diff ways, i have heard him...but to believe is to have fath in God and trust in him, and not to believe is a lack of the same fath and trust...theres things that you go through in life that make it so you believe or not...its somthing everyone has to do themselfs noone can post 100% proof that there is a God or not

[idgaf rpgfan]

Personally I don't believe in god. I also believe that until you die and do or do not meet "him" you will not know "the truth." Basically, each persons beliefs are all the "proof" that they need.

(Did I use enough quotes in there?)

[Lancet Jades]

Cacaw, i understand you posting your OPINION, but this thread is for debating whether or not God exists, and what proof either side can offer. IF all you're gonna post is your opinion, and if you don't feel like debating it, then don't post in here. Simple as that.

[Wallie Wildo]

ok then but i do now i was just tired then lol :D

[Lancet Jades]

Then where IS your argument?

[Wallie Wildo]

oh lol well i dont beleave in a god cuz if there was i think that he would interfere anyway cuz i doubt that if he cared that there would be murder rape and so on i dont like anybody who forces thier elgion on me cuz my mom back when she cared about me she threatennd to never do anything to help me or anything good for me now she does not care about me im done thats pretty much all i can think of now but there is no solid proof of him exsiting or not exsisting if anyone has solid evidence please tell me if im convinced then ill start to beleave but there is no way to prove it either way

[Jeff]

Most of the bad things that happen in the world are not God's fault. Do you think that God goes around, causing floods, massive earthquakes, AIDS, and other such epidemics? That is the work of Satan, as God allows him to go free throughout the world. Why does God do this? I don't know, but it's not my argument. It's his. There has been much proof that God exists. Many people witnessed Jesus's resurrection. Not to mention that if you want to get technical, what else could get a person off of drugs, a person's whose life has been totally wiped out and become totally pointless? People on the verge of suicide have become very happy when they find their religion.

[Lancet Jades]

And to back up doc's claim there, do you really think willpower and hope alone could get someone off drugs and such? I doubt it, especially considering people in that position often have little or no willpower, and no hope.

[Quel Thalas]

I believe to an extent...i am by no means religious...and if i believe in any god, tha god would be morea deity, just merely observing us, nothing more... and my proof is simple, its what i was brought up with, what i was indoctrinated with...so yeah...the proof be me mind

[Zelphiel]

Do you think that God goes around, causing floods, massive earthquakes, AIDS, and other such epidemics? That is the work of Satan, as God allows him to go free throughout the world.


I look at it as a combination of nature and mankind. which in some cases could be satan. I've contemplated the man=satan thing before.

[idgaf rpgfan]

Quite possible, or it could just be nature kicking our @$$

[Zelphiel]

man=satan
nature=god

something like that I guess....

[Chicken Little]

here we go again. blah de blah blah blah.

Satan thought up to keep those inline with gods teachings, in religion there cannot be a 'holy one' bringing whatever divinity without there being one bringing the opposite. All that proof that you have of his existence is based upon things that could or could not have happened and could be made up and placed in the books and documents you hold dear. Tell me when you read a book do you take everything in it as seriously?

Think of it by using the case of santa claus that was brought up.

There was a person named St Nicholas and he did do things that originally brought about the fable of santa claus in western civilization. Why cant this be true with the supposed god and jesus, therefore bringing your proof to mean absolute didly squat.

'God lets us chose our own path thats whay the worlds horrible' - excuse
'God is always there you just cant see him or anything' - excuse
'When you die if your good you go to heaven, if your bad you go to hell' - contradiction - order

No one can prove 100% on anything in reality and thus far the only arguments i have seen to support God existing, is because 'hes a divine being who created everything' and i quote that from another argument. But where did god come from?, where did he start? why did he create? why did he leave? why was he only really around during certain times as dominant figure and the cause of many a bloodshed? why was hell and satan created in defiance of the 'Forgives all' commandement?

Poses too many questions for it to be even considered as a half truth for any person to believe it who doesnt want to.