True Love

[Tiffany]

Anyone found their "true love" yet?

[Saberstar]

mine is Cacaw...

[Laggy]

yes.......lol ^_^

[Wallie Wildo]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*takes a breath*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Aoi Asahina]

No, and I doubt that I ever will...

[Wallie Wildo]

i dont want one in case everybody doesnt allready know

[Laggy]

=/ going to be alone all your life?...jeez,,,at timeas that will save you alot of hard **** to go through but mostly...lonly you will be lol

[Chaos Theory]

I dont believe in "true" love

just love and lust

[Tiffany]

yes.......lol ^_^
i just realized i didn't say if i had in my post lol but yep me 2 :D :love laggy :love

[Wallie Wildo]

i dont care it will also cause me alot of pain trying to find a person who i love and if i did find someone they would eventully die and thats not fun ive been through alot and death is the hardst to get thourgh

[Lancet Jades]

I havent found ANY love yet, much less my "true" love...and i doubt i ever will...no matter how hard i try...

[The Wang Master]

I'm still too young

[Rick_dowg2099]

i thought i had at one time but i guess not ...but that dosent matter cus theres like 40000000000 girls out there lol

[Leknaat]

no I haven't really been looking anyway...right now I'd rather be single.

[Ricdeau]

No, I dont have any love for anyone so far. Only admiration.

[Chicken Little]

am i the only one seeing the whole tiff makes thread, laggy shows up they do lovey crap in it?? Not saying its bad just sasking a question.

no
no
no
no
and
no

though taryn is greatand all im reserving words for when we meet.

[Laggy]

yes but see....that might be what she is doing..she makes thread..see what i say...but i have no part in it lol..i post everywhere....its not me...blam her! lolol

[The Wang Master]

blam her, is that a way to say "shoot her" that is so evil.

Does this true love have to be with someone you marry. Because if you want to measure love, I'm sure there are alot of brothers family members that have some sort of connection that could be interpreted as love. Mind you I'm not talking about incest. Just a really strong bond. . .then again is incest so wrong if it was meant to be. I love Korean soaps (soap operas like guiding light but a hell of a lot better).

[idgaf rpgfan]

True love does not exist, only good enough for now

[Lancet Jades]

I think true love DOES exist, but the majority of people never find it...

[Laggy]

i get what idgaf rpgfan is saying very well...you can fall in love...and it is right for the time...just cause it didnt last doesnt mean it wasnt ment to be...just means it was only ment to be for that time

[Lancet Jades]

Ohhh...yeah, i think i get it.

But, that isnt neccesarily true. Two people could be meant for each other, but due to circumstances, end up breaking up or something. Just because its true love doesnt mean human-caused circumstances cant interfere.

[Laggy]

true, very true...meant to be doesnt mean it will last...and like i said, even if its meant to be doesnt mean you cant fall in love again with someone else..and thats meant to be too...for that time

[The Wang Master]

Yeah cause as we all know, you completely understand the mysteries of life when you reach 18. That's how we can say these things with a definite certainty considering we all have been all over the world and actually put some time to research these things, not like we are making guesses by what we've come to experience in the first 1/6th of our lifespans.

[Laggy]

Im stating my opinion on the matter just like everyone else

[The Wang Master]

Not the way it sounds coming from you people, like it's all definite and one theory is worth saying, that is correct. I mean you said it yourself.

true, very true
how does saying that interpret to just opinion?

[Laggy]

lol you start **** at bad times fairy, very bad times...but thats ok...anything that is said anyewhere is an opinion nothing is fact around here or any where..cause everyone has there own views...and i dont mean that NOTHING is fact...but for the most part i could care less about any researching or what not, cause i think for my self..and people can be wrong..me and even you *gasp* but from what i do know, and thats alot about this, cause i have been through alot...i state a opinion about..im not going to fight you about somthing thats not needed to fight about...

[The Wang Master]

I'm not fighting, you are just the only one posting at the moment.

If I am wrong it's because of a careless mistake and if I am unsure, I don't say anything. It's not just you it's all of the people in this thread. None of you have anything that is nice or optomistic. So I must refute you for the sake of love.

I am a hopeless romantic and I refuse to believe that it doesn't exist. There are stories of people who find each other and live the rest of their lives with each other. They never stray or faulter and when one dies the other dies within a month or two. They never can say why that happens so much in long marriages, but in today's world where everything needs a quick fix it's very hard to find the person meant for you. No one wants to take chances because they could fail. Money plays too big a role in relationships these days. That is why it is hard to find true love.

Plus, would you want a girlfriend or boyfriend that says to you

"I love you so much. . .for now."

or when you are getting proposed to

"Will you marry me? But not for too long cause I don't think I could love you for that long, you know, forever."

Why even get married, why even prevent gay marriage. You don't need to be married to reprocreate.

We use marriage to announce our love for another person and that is why you get the woman an engagement ring. So you both can show it off. If money wasn't so important we would be alot better off.

[Laggy]

well i do see what you mean..but you dont see what i mean...im not saying that you go into it thinking it wont work, im saying that just because it doesnt work doesnt mean that it wasnt meant to be,...it just wasnt meant to last

[The Wang Master]

I see what you mean, I'm not a child. My balls dropped along time ago.

The problem is, alot of people don't know what love is. Security does not always mean love. That's why alot of old romantic stories is about a well off female that is going to marry some pompus rich asshole that could afford her every material whim. She instead chooses a person of valor and substance over the prince. Granted they do over emphasize the fact with how snooty he is and mistreating the common man. The point of the story is, you don't need all that stuff if you have love, true love.

My point is, people don't know what they want and they can't allow themselves to take the risk if they know they have a sure way of being supported and never once being forced to live on the street. "My parents didn't raise me to live in this dump, I'm going back to my mother." I'm sure that makes sense to someone, if only I had the excuse of being high when I typed this.

If you want a good movie about love and all that mushy fate stuff I recommend Gorgeous, by Jackie Chan. That movie had a lot in it, not more than The Princess Bride, but enough for me to like it.

[Laggy]

i understand that fairy...you have no idea how much truth you really said just then when it comes to me...whoa...lol...me i know love though..i would fdo anything to keep it..there is one thing i cant do that the love im in is telling me to do...and on the other side you have somone that wont take any risks at all...who is to stuck on everything else in the world to move on and start a new life...im thinking you will understand what im saying very well..cause how i read that post really kinda..you told a story of how things are..and how it always happends...but agian...true love isnt just that you stay with somone forever...you know the stories of the ones that love so much but cant be togather?..they still love the other one..but they move on and love a new one aswell? if you know what i mean then you must understand,..buth loves where meant to be..just one didnt last

[The Wang Master]

It transcends death, yet still conquers all.

[Chicken Little]

three points fairy no points laguna

winner fairy.

*ninja dusts*

[The Wang Master]

What do I win?

[Laggy]

you win a date with kenny lmao

[cecini]

My view on love: A lot of people do not know what the difference between lust and love is. A lot of people think that they have fallen in love only to find out that it is actually lust. I thought I was in love at one point in time in my life. I married the guy and found out how much of an idiot he was. I have come to the realization that I only lusted after him and truly never loved him. Love is something that takes time, dedication, and patience. To know true love you would have to be wiht a person through the ups and downs of life. And stand beside them and guide each other through them. I really think that in order to truly love someone you have to know them for years upon years before you can love them. I mean, when you meet someone for the first time, it is more of a lust and love is more than lust. To truly love someone is to trust them with your heart and have no secrets.

So to get back on topic.. no I haven't met my true love and probably won't for a while because I am enjoying single life too much.

[The Wang Master]

That seemed thought out.

But I disagree with the lust thing. I'm more inclined to believe that has to do with the quick fix idea. When you do fall in love I doubt you know it till much later. That is why in alot of stories the guy doesn't realise what he had till the end or through some odd turn about he could lose her.

You want to know what love is, how to separate it from lust.

Marry someone with herpes. If you can do that knowing full well they have herpes, you might have found true love.

[idgaf rpgfan]

Plain and simple, lust=physical feelings, love=mental good feelings, yes ppl get those 2 mixed up all the time.

[The Wang Master]

oh please, don't go spouting off what you consider the truth. There are no words to define love, simply examples that unfortunately are few and far in between. Because of that we constantly question our priorities.

Lets take those priorities away. (not sexist, just male) All you have is you and her. What is it that you could say that would let her know you love her. You could say it, but everyone says it, and thus we are defensive about who's words we can trust to be the truth. Let alone the levels that we try and categorize love in, which we can not help. Do you love this person enough to sacrifice your funds and take her on a date, or move in together, or buy her a ring, or get her a house and a car and kids and a new beginning.

It's not so definable because some people do not need these things to be in love. Some could just be happy with a book sharing the same chair with their other. Given the wide spectrum that is love. Don't try and define it in one phlacid sentence.

Lust is a part of love you dumbass.

[idgaf rpgfan]

:devil First off, love AND lust are no more than feelings, just like hunger, being scared, cold, or happy to name a few. They are simply names for those feelings. We add more meaning to the names to make ourselves feel better :devil

[The Wang Master]

Don't get philosophical on me child.

If you want to restrain yourself to the mere definition of words and not how we got those defintions you will not understand anything in life. Love has been associated with fate, a strong part of free will, and free will is our way of defying fate. Love is greater than just feelings.

Did you ever think about being scared. It's not just a feeling, it's a condition. That's why there are people with phobias. For some reason they managed to tune themselves into some stream that others are unable to find, and they become deathly afraid of things.

Being cold is not like being in love, you are cold because the temperature shifted. If you want to say one is in love because something changed, well it takes a bigger shift than a few degrees.

Hunger can be caused by depression or boredom. You make up hunger to have something to do or because you don't feel filled inside you replace it with food till your stomach can't hold anymore.

Being happy is a part of love, it's the bi product on some occasions.

Lust is a part of love, it is sometimes called passion.

Either you are really stupid or you are trying to piss me off buy being a dumbass.

How the f*ck do you come to your conclusions so resolutely. Is it your lack of thinking skills or you have low standards for such things and your answers are "good enough"

Let's not go through this again. If you are stating something, please say that it is your opinion.

Unless you are God. . . .like me.[/sarcasm]

[idgaf rpgfan]

OK I'll start by stating THIS IS MY OPINION!!! (I noticed you forgot that part) No I am not stupid, or trying to piss you off, I am simply stating that all feelings, physical, mental, or emotional are just that, feelings. We have been taught since birth certain things, love is one of those things, what we feel when we are "in love" is just our teachings of our reaction to a person. Once again, just my opinion. :D

[The Wang Master]

I don't need to say in my opinion, I've done the research and the study so most of what I say is a culmination of basic ideas that I find easy to believe in that I can express to you people.

Love isn't something you are taught. Love just is, I would like to know your age so I know what I'm dealing with. Love is more than a feeling. That should be evident. You say it as though it is like one of the 5 basic senses.

So when you get that akward feeling when the person you love stands real close to you, and she doesn't know you are in love, you know exactly what to do because someone taught you what to do. Are you like "okay, I have a weird feeling in my stomach and my heart is racing, I think this is where my dad told me to grab her boobies." I doubt it, it's all a learning experience. Sadly you are looking at the individual not how it affects the whole.

Why do we get jealous over little things or how are we able to do the things we do. Some people claim that it is the bond of love, me being a hopeless romantic refuse to believe in anything so concrete as "this is what it is" and it's sad that there are people that believe in that mentality. You need to learn how to accept things as being complicated. Until you are 40 you don't know ****. Hell most of this is reiterating what has be echoed through out time through the stories we tell and the history we repeat. My interpretaion is the only thing that is young about my comments.

Please don't accept things that come in nice neat packages.

[idgaf rpgfan]

I don't need to say in my opinion, I've done the research and the study so most of what I say is a culmination of basic ideas that I find easy to believe in that I can express to you people.

Love isn't something you are taught. Love just is, I would like to know your age so I know what I'm dealing with. Love is more than a feeling. That should be evident. You say it as though it is like one of the 5 basic senses.
"done the research and the study", "Love just is" highly scientific and intelligent, NOT

So when you get that akward feeling when the person you love stands real close to you, and she doesn't know you are in love, you know exactly what to do because someone taught you what to do. Are you like "okay, I have a weird feeling in my stomach and my heart is racing, I think this is where my dad told me to grab her boobies." I doubt it, it's all a learning experience. Sadly you are looking at the individual not how it affects the whole.
You are feeling FEAR

Why do we get jealous over little things or how are we able to do the things we do. Some people claim that it is the bond of love, me being a hopeless romantic refuse to believe in anything so concrete as "this is what it is" and it's sad that there are people that believe in that mentality. You need to learn how to accept things as being complicated. Until you are 40 you don't know ****. Hell most of this is reiterating what has be echoed through out time through the stories we tell and the history we repeat. My interpretaion is the only thing that is young about my comments.
You're 18 and telling me to wait till I'm over 40?!?!?!?

Please don't accept things that come in nice neat packages.
Why not, thats how Amazon.com sends me stuff :D

[Wallie Wildo]

ok fairy you said that you are going to state your opininon so what other people cant you need to f*ck off man and how is idgaf rpgfan a child hes only 14 years older then you im sorry that this is off topic too here is my oppinion true love does not exist kinda hard for an athist to say that people are ment to be together

[The Wang Master]

I spent a long time researching the feelings and lifestyles over the past melleniumniumanumnum. Had to, it was for my humanities class, then I had all that psychology crap. Then I had to do philosophers. Then there was the interest in introspective thinking. Spent sometime reading alot of romantic books back then and now. Studied the victorian era like a feind. Not to mention all the other stuff I did on my free time.

Introspection owns you, you damn westener.

I'm 18, so what, I know what I'm limited to. But I have to know something. At the moment, I'm pretty clear on things, but when I'm 40, I'll realise I dont' know sh*t. That's how it works.

*opinion* You claimed it to be fear, why can't it be some sort of vibe if you will, that you some how tapped into. Not so much a vibe but a sense of connection. As you move closer some part of you wants to open up and connect with her, but you can't explain what it is. Now it could be love but I'm not sure. It can sometimes work out and she also wants to connect back, but you have to let her know. Everything is done on a concious level but somethings, like breathing, are not easily controlled.

Think of it as someone is about to hit you, you flinch, it's a bodily reaction. So is the feeling you get as you are trying to connect with the other person, you know it's happening when all those feelings come about. You just can't see it because it is not on the physical level that can be detected by the 5 senses.

Alan Watts tries to point out that we have selective attention. Much like someone listening to music as they are driving the music is just white noise as they concentrate on the road or the music has primary attention as you kill nuns with your car.

God damn it to ****ing hell, I want to expand on the idea and I don't have the time to do it. See this is why I don't get anything done, I spend too much time pondering the what if. **** it I'll make a separate thread about this. My friend is on, finally, been like a ****ing year.

[idgaf rpgfan]

I spent a long time researching the feelings and lifestyles over the past melleniumniumanumnum. Had to, it was for my humanities class, then I had all that psychology crap. Then I had to do philosophers. Then there was the interest in introspective thinking. Spent sometime reading alot of romantic books back then and now. Studied the victorian era like a feind. Not to mention all the other stuff I did on my free time.

Introspection owns you, you damn westener.

I'm 18, so what, I know what I'm limited to. But I have to know something. At the moment, I'm pretty clear on things, but when I'm 40, I'll realise I dont' know sh*t. That's how it works.
I take it you are like Merlin? The whole live life backwards thing?

*opinion* You claimed it to be fear, why can't it be some sort of vibe if you will, that you some how tapped into. Not so much a vibe but a sense of connection. As you move closer some part of you wants to open up and connect with her, but you can't explain what it is. Now it could be love but I'm not sure. It can sometimes work out and she also wants to connect back, but you have to let her know. Everything is done on a concious level but somethings, like breathing, are not easily controlled.
I'll expand, fear of embaressment, or not getting what you want (the date)

Think of it as someone is about to hit you, you flinch, it's a bodily reaction. So is the feeling you get as you are trying to connect with the other person, you know it's happening when all those feelings come about. You just can't see it because it is not on the physical level that can be detected by the 5 senses.
Correct, its all a bodily reaction

Alan Watts tries to point out that we have selective attention. Much like someone listening to music as they are driving the music is just white noise as they concentrate on the road or the music has primary attention as you kill nuns with your car.

God damn it to ****ing hell, I want to expand on the idea and I don't have the time to do it. See this is why I don't get anything done, I spend too much time pondering the what if. **** it I'll make a separate thread about this. My friend is on, finally, been like a ****ing year.

PM me when you do, this has been fun :D

[The Wang Master]

Tee Hee, my friend is on, so excited. Turns out she went to full lezzy, when before she was bi. And she's not moving. And she thought about me in a positive way. *feels loved*

[idgaf rpgfan]

Tee Hee, my friend is on, so excited. Turns out she went to full lezzy, when before she was bi. And she's not moving. And she thought about me in a positive way. *feels loved*"True love?"

[nightsavior]

heh heh. i can tell i missed an interesting debate. well i'm 26 and despite cold hard reality kicking me in the ass i do believe in the existence of true love. alot of ppl think love isn't real but that's just because it is difficult to find. to me you know you love someone if you experience caring for and desiring them on many levels. for example i know this wonderful girl named tara. we have so much fun just talking on the phone and enjoying each others company. we laugh at times and discuss how we feel. sure there is a sexual attraction going on between us but it is not the only thing our relationship is based on...i mean we could just hug each other or hold hands and get a more powerful positive energy then actual sex. (not to say sex isn't great!) you pretty much know u love someone when just hearing from them takes you to a better state of mind...when you're on cloud 9 talking to them and your not even touching. love is far more then a physical chemical reaction shared between two ppl in order to atrract opposite genders for procreation..it is spiritual and emotion as well. for example have you ever been so attuned to your partner you know what they are feeling and say something they were going to say? i have and it's a weird and wonderful experience. in my opinion there is alot more to love then ppl realize. it goes way beyond simple sexual desire.